ocpd71 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 For the pre-1994 SA Police uniform, what type of holster was carried on the brown leather Sam Browne belt? Also, what was the standard issue sidearm during the 1970s -1980s period? And this question pertains to the dress blue uniform, not the camouflage uniform. Thanks in advance for any responses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpopomeni Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 For the pre-1994 SA Police uniform, what type of holster was carried on the brown leather Sam Browne belt? Also, what was the standard issue sidearm during the 1970s -1980s period? And this question pertains to the dress blue uniform, not the camouflage uniform. Thanks in advance for any responses! We carried a brown leather holster worn on the left side, and backwards for a draw with the right hand. In 1983 I was issued with a Walther P38, 8 shot pistol. The uniform I wore mostly was the heavy and thick polyester "safari suit" comprising longs and a short sleeved tunic due to the hot weather where I served. We only wore the full uniform on ceremonial occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I can only add - welcome both of you to GMIC. Rather different that we have a question raised by a new member in New York - and answered by a new member in London. I hope that your question has now been answered ocpd ? We will be pleased to hear from both of you about yourselves and any collections you may have. I am guessing ocpd that you are a serving officer ? One note - we try to use first names amongst ourselves - more friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocpd71 Posted July 2, 2011 Author Share Posted July 2, 2011 Thank you for your reply! It was exactly the information I needed. My current collecting "project" is putting together a complete SA police uniform. Thus far I have manged to put together the dress blue cap, blue long sleeve tunic, collar and shoulder brass, Sam Browne belt w/ cross strap, and the P-38 pistol. Im still trying to find the trousers and correct holster for the uniform. I am also keeping my eye out for the blue short sleeve "safari" jacket. Old South African Police items are very hard to come across here in the States, so if you know of any collectors' resources, id be glad to here it. Also, was there a name plate or any other emblems other than the collar insignia and SAP shoulder titles worn on the dress tunic? Thanks again for all the information. -Jeff P.S. -Yes, I am a serving law enforcement officer here in NY state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sludge Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Hi A name badge was worn, initially just a gold/silver plate with name in Blue/black, later including old SA flag. later on some wore swat, shooting or other qualification badges If you are still in the market for SAP items I can have a look for trousers and an ysterbaadjie when I go back in December..... I have lots of old uniforms. Unfortunately not a p38 holster. Was thinking of putting sap slangvel (jump smock) 2nd camo pattern on e-bay! As a matter of interest, my first service weapon was a S&W 38, followed by walter P38, Beretta 92F and Z88. Beretta was my favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Hi - Sludge - we must welcome you also, to GMIC. I sometimes think most Sth. Africans now live overseas. We shall look forward to hearing more about you and your collecting interests. I think I may have an SAP holster in the shop - will have a look. Mervyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milhistry Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I have a spare lead grey SAP safari suit somewhere (it is still sealed in a plastic bag). I have been trying to piece together information and photos of the earlier SA Police uniforms (i.e. pre 1961) over the past few years. I have extracts from old dress regs etc. but a picture is always worth more. If anyone has nice examples of the older uniforms to post that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milhistry Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Service Dress Jacket & Trousers to a Lieutenant as worn 1980s. The hard shoulder boards for officers were introduced in the 1970s. Constables,NCOS and Warrant Officers wore "SAP" letters on the shoulder strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milhistry Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Service Dress Jacket & Trousers to a Lieutenant as worn 1980s. The hard shoulder boards for officers were introduced in the 1970s. Constables,NCOS and Warrant Officers wore "SAP" letters on the shoulder strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milhistry Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Close up of the shoulder board and collar dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milhistry Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Lead grey Summer Dress c. 1970s/early 1980s. Collar dogs would have been worn on the collar, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocpd71 Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Thanks for posting the great pics of the old SAP uniforms. That "lead grey" summer dress is especially sharp! Was this worn with the Sam Browne and cross strap on a daily basis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 This was the cap for the Railway Police. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_02_2012/post-6209-0-73032000-1329748271.jpgCLICK TO ENLARGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Side view CLICK TO ENLARGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicpow22 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 The old SAP summer dress was worn with the SAM Browne and cross strap on a daily basis. It was not the most comfortable uniform to wear in a hot and humid environment. On the lapels of the tunic we also had the small SAP star as is shown in the picture of the winter tunic. In 1980 we were not issued with any name plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Vic - welcome to GMIC. We shall look forward to hearing more from you. Mervyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardtl Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Sorry for the necropost, but I am trying to put together a SAP safari suit uniform. I have the hat, top and trousers. Would this have been worn with a brown sam-browne? What shoes woud be worn with this? Brown or Black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Richard - welcome to GMIC. We have a lot of retired SAP members and I am sure one of them will be able to answer your question. Failing this I will contact some friends still serving. Mervyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardtl Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Thanks Mervyn, sorry for not posting any introductions but I will do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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