Komandir RKKA Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 Please help to find out what the order or medal is this.
Bison Posted March 13, 2011 Posted March 13, 2011 Hi Frankly, I don't know what is this medal. It is not a French official medal and I doubt it is French. There is a big mistake in the word "HONNEUR" which is written "HORNEUR"... may be a mix with HORREUR... Regards Bison
paul wood Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Hi Frankly, I don't know what is this medal. It is not a French official medal and I doubt it is French. There is a big mistake in the word "HONNEUR" which is written "HORNEUR"... may be a mix with HORREUR... Regards Bison A well made piece and I suspect the spelling mistake is deliberate. I suspect the answer lies in the BF by the turret at the top. Possibly a satirical award in the nature of Bouffon Francais All the best, Paul
Komandir RKKA Posted March 14, 2011 Author Posted March 14, 2011 As I was informed on Russian speaking forum it's a Cross of rescuers of territory of Belfort. It's rare and French, but nobody has any idea about wrong written "HONNEUR" word.
PKeating Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 (edited) This looks like the Croix des Sauveteurs du Haut-Rhin et du Territoire de Belfort from the 1870/71 period. The semi-official and unoffical life-saving awards of the 1870 period can command high prices amongst French collectors and some of these awards are faked. It might be genuine, despite the spelling error. It would be necessary to show this to an experienced collector. I found this image on http://semon.fr/LES%20MEDAILLES%20DE%20SAUVETAGE_3.htm. Look also at http://semon.fr/LES%20MEDAILLES%20DE%20SAUVETAGE_2.htm Interesting site. Edited March 14, 2011 by PKeating
Komandir RKKA Posted March 15, 2011 Author Posted March 15, 2011 Thank you for your info My cross has handmade date on reverse side - 1903 probably that explane the difference in writing.
PKeating Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 (edited) You are welcome. If you click on this link, you can find a scan of a postcard dating from 1913 showing a portrait photographed at Trouville on the Normandy coast of one Frédéric Postel, decorated with thirty-two «médailles de sauvetage» as well as the insignia of the Légion d'Honneur. Right in the middle of his chest seems to be the Croix des sauveteurs de Belfort. Note the large suspension ring. There would have been several makers of some of these medals over the years. A spelling error in "honneur" seems strange but it would not be the first time a die engraver made a mistake. There are some good French medal forums - whose members come here sometimes - where there must be someone who can offer you a more definitive opinion. PK Edited March 16, 2011 by PKeating
PKeating Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 You are welcome. If you click on this link - http://www.cpaphil.com/images//QDK/QDK079.jpg you can find a scan of a postcard dating from 1913 showing a portrait photographed at Troubille on the Normandy coast of one Frédéric Postel, decorated with thirty-two «médailles de sauvetage» as well as the insignia of the Légion d'Honneur. Right in the middle of his chest seems to be the Croix des sauveteurs de Belfort. Note the large suspension ring. There would have been several makers of some of these medals over the years. A spelling error in "honneur" seems strange but it would not be the first time a die engraver made a mistake. There are some good French medal forums - whose members come here sometimes - where there must be someone who can offer you a more definitive opinion. PK
Komandir RKKA Posted March 16, 2011 Author Posted March 16, 2011 Thank you for great photo! I also hope somebody of French collectors will define it more correct.
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