Markus Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I think the French Colonial medals really stand out when it comes to design and manufacture. The French medal makers incorporated design elements from the colonies and created unique pieces that stand out as both beautiful and unique. With all the colonial medals, there where multiple French makers, so slight variations of design are noticed even in the same order. In the attached image is: Order of the Dragon of Annam (French colonial Vietnam) 1886-1960's Lemaitre-maker Order of Ouissam Alaouit (French colonial Morocco) 1913-1956 Arthus Bertrand-maker Order of Cambodia (French colonial Cambodia) 1864-1948 Boulanger-maker Order of Nichan El-Anouar (French Somaliland Djibouti) 1867-1963 French maker Markus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odulf Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) I don't see the relation between orders and medals here. Still, these are nice pics of orders. Edited March 25, 2011 by Odulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 The relationship of these medals: They were instituted under French colonial rule for French colonial territories and awarded to both French and citizens of the colonial countries. Markus I don't see the relation between orders and medals here. Still, these are nice pics of orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drclaw Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Stunning examples Marcus! I had not seen the French Somaliland Order before. But yes, these stand among the highest examples of the jeweller's craft. I know the Orders of the Dragon and Cambodia have different ribbon colours depending on whether they were awarded by the local ruler as opposed to the French President. Is the same true for the Moroco and Somaliland Orders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) Hi Gavin! I have never seen variations in the Order of Nichan El-Anouar order ribbons or the Morocco Ouissam Alaouit ribbons. The Dragon of Annam I have seen in three different ribbons. Very early models had a ribbon like the Cambodia order, white ribbon with gold stripes. Later models had the French government issued ribbons of orange ribbon with yellow stripes or the Annam issued medals with green with gold stripes. Markus Stunning examples Marcus! I had not seen the French Somaliland Order before. But yes, these stand among the highest examples of the jeweller's craft. I know the Orders of the Dragon and Cambodia have different ribbon colours depending on whether they were awarded by the local ruler as opposed to the French President. Is the same true for the Moroco and Somaliland Orders? Edited March 25, 2011 by Markus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drclaw Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Beautiful. It's the different designs of the dragon from different periods / makers that I find so appealing about these orders. Makes collecting these very rewarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Just gorgeous! Beautiful examples! Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drclaw Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Here's a 5th Class Order of the Dragon that arrived in the mail today. It was quite heavily tarnished so spent a very happy hour or two cleaning it, first with a toothbrush and soapy water, and then with a silver polishing cloth. The dragon is enamelled (although it appears more like a matte paint) green with a yellow belly although it is hard to tell in the photograph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Markus Posted March 29, 2011 Author Share Posted March 29, 2011 Beautiful addition to your collection Gavin! The Dragon has nice detailing and is yet another variation of the many makers of the Dragon of Annam. I could just collect these Dragons and be very happy and content with my hobby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) In fact and to be very precise on the wording there are seven French Colonial Orders : - Ordre du Dragon d'Annam (Indochina, to be short) - Ordre Royal du Cambodge (Cambodia) - Ordre de l'Etoile Noire (French Western Africa) - Ordre du Nichan El Anouar (Djibouti, Horn of Africa) - Ordre de l'Etoile d'Anjouan (Comoros Islands) The two others are from French 'Protectorates' but not actually considered as 'Colonies' because they were ruled by autonomous governorships. - Ordre du Ouissam Alaouite (Morocco) - Ordre du Nicham Iftikhar (Tunisia) Therefore there are at least three more reasons to love them... Cordialement Bison Edited April 1, 2011 by Bison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 1. 2. 3. 1. Ordre de l'Etoile Noire (Colonial Order, French Western Africa)) 2. Ordre du Nicham Iftikhar (Protectorate Order, Tunisia) 3. Ordre de l'Etoile d'Anjouan (Colonial Order, Comoros) Aye Bison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 For the Ouissam Alaouite, the model you are presenting is a post 1937 model, with an orange ribbon with two white stripes (this disposition was taken to avoid confusion with the red ribbon of the Légion d'honneur). In 1913, the first model was wearing the Quran sentence in the branches :"There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the messenger of God". This mention has been suppressed by the influence of the French Governor of the Protectorate, Marshall Lyautey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drclaw Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Well said, Bison. These are French Orders and I should be using their correct French terms. Three more reasons to love French colonial medals indeed! Thanks for sharing your fine examples. Interesting information about the Ouissam Alaouite and how the Quran verse was suppressed by the French Governor. Is there much interest in collecting these orders in France? As a non-French person, I find these orders beautiful and highly desirable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Posted April 2, 2011 Author Share Posted April 2, 2011 Thanks Bison for your additions to this thread! I really value all the expert members sharing their knowledge on this Forum. The French Colonial and French Protectorates medals are a hard group to beat with the beautiful designs, world class French medal makers and diversity of this group. I have been collecting the Nichan Aftikhar medals as well, trying to assemble one medal from each Bey era. Do you view this medal as both French and Tunisian or firmly place it in the French section of medals? It seems like this medal ceased to exist as an order immediately after the independence of Tunisia. Best Regards, Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapten_windu Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 the design are very nice..:cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is there much interest in collecting these orders in France? As a non-French person, I find these orders beautiful and highly desirable. Yes it is! Because there are beautiful and desirable, and also because the history attached to them is of utmost interest. All ODMs from the colonial period are considered as a must for a modest French collector like me... Aye Bison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drclaw Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) My Royal Order of Cambodia (Ordre Royal du Cambodge) which arrived today. Have to agree that these are one of the most attractive orders around in terms of the sheer elegance of the design. Believe these have now been resurrected under the current Kingdom. Edited April 13, 2011 by drclaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Congrats Gavin! I Particularly like the piercing of the plaque on your medal. Seems like this piercing technique was only used on the earlier medal production. If this medal is still being produced, I'm sure the quality is no where near the quality of the early French medal makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) Congrats Gavin! I Particularly like the piercing of the plaque on your medal. Seems like this piercing technique was only used on the earlier medal production. If this medal is still being produced, I'm sure the quality is no where near the quality of the early French medal makers. Hello all ! These beautiful pictures show two kinds of orders, which the purist collector of French colonial material should clearly understand. One first group of five orders are proprely considered to be French colonial orders. They originally were Indo-Chinese or African, awarded by local rulers of countries which had been taken over by France in the later XIXth century, namely : The Royal Order of Cambodia The Order of the Dragon of Annam (one of the componants of now Viet-Nam). The African Order of the Black Star of Benin (West African country) The African Order of the Star of Anjouan (Small island in the Indian Ocean, off the East African coast). The African Order of Nichan-el-Anouar (Tadjourah a minute Sultanate on the Red Sea) These orders were simply annexed by the French and the Chancery of the Legion of honor was in charge of all five. The local rulers had practically no say. The first two were returned to the King of Cambodia and the Emperor of Annam shortly after WW2. The three others were dubbed "Overseas Orders" and continued to be awarded until they disappeared with the creation of the National order of merit along with a dozen other minor government "orders" in 1963. The second group of two orders were treated differently. Nichan-Iftikar of Tunisia and Ouissam-Alaouite of Marocco, although they were frequently bestowed upon Frenchmen, remained "foreign" orders whith close ties to the French. The Nichan-Iftikar disappeared when Tunisia became a Republic. The Ouissam-Alaouite is still bestowed by the King of Morocco. Rather confusing, of course. But these orders deserve to be understood as best as possible. Veteran Edited April 14, 2011 by Veteran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 Many thanks Veteren for your additions and clarifications. I enjoy the history of these orders and agree it is important to keep the facts straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 My new addition: Commander Dragon of Annam Badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 The Annam Dragon Commander in grouping to show size relations. Right to left: Officer badge, Commander badge, Knight badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 Close up of Dragon. Nice iridescence in the dragon enamels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drclaw Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Beautiful Markus, just beautiful. The enamels on the dragon just glow. And I was surprised at the size of the order relative to the officers and knights. Now I definitely have jewel envy All you need now is a First and Second Class and your set is complete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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