Dieter3 Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Here's kind of an interesting one - the case is not lacquer, rather paper-wrapped, like the China Incident medal. Osaka mint, rosette also marked "ス" - I would think this would date the overall piece to the late 20s/early 30s, but can't quite figure out the case. Replacement of sorts? It's really quite well made. Interior is the same, satin-like material, zero metal hardware on it.
JapanX Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Well this is really interesting unusual box + marked badge in excellent conditions + marked rosette. Very nicely done! Guess somebody just came back from Japan and this somebody definitely not me This box is really mysterious one. And very accurately made. The badge is from late 20s/early 30s with very nice color pattern of the jewels. Cool!
Dieter3 Posted December 29, 2011 Author Posted December 29, 2011 Thanks! Yes, most impressed with the case - it is better than those mystery Red Cross ones!! Hopefully somebody will know more about these - there must be others.
JapanX Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Hopefully somebody will know more about these - there must be others. Well. I am heartbroken (to say the least)! I thought I am your sidekick in all these mystery cases! Well let's wait for the others ;)
Paul L Murphy Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 One of my mentors in Japan, Mori san in Tokyo, believed that the pasteboard cases for orders were from the early 1940s. There is no solid proof for this but it makes sense since they are pretty rare (and are normally Sacred Treasure awards which continued to be bestowed for long service). Mori san has been collecting and dealing in Japanese militaria since before most of us were born (he started in the 1950s) so I tend to believe him in this regard.
Dieter3 Posted December 29, 2011 Author Posted December 29, 2011 Thank you Paul! Every bit of info like this helps put pieces into the puzzle! (well, for me anyway, the puzzle is pretty big..... ) I thought perhaps they were "less expensive" replacements, possibly for damaged originals.
JapanX Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) Silver kanjis, cardboard box ... No wonder Mori son believed it came from early 40s... Strange kinda order inside though... Diameter of rivets are to big (for my taste) for 40s (not to mention mint mark M!) Well, none of this is easy, hence the need to avoid jumping to conclusions too quickly! :lol: Edited December 30, 2011 by JapanX
Dieter3 Posted December 30, 2011 Author Posted December 30, 2011 That's why I was wondering if it could have been a replacement for a damaged original - the medal and the case don't seem to go together!!
JapanX Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 Another piece with exactly the same characteristics (the mark on rosette is not visible, but I bet it is "ス" )
Dieter3 Posted September 8, 2012 Author Posted September 8, 2012 Complete with "M" - but I'm still puzzled by the use of these cases - I mean they definitely come from a time when lacquerware was the thing, so what's up with these?
JapanX Posted September 8, 2012 Posted September 8, 2012 ... but I'm still puzzled by the use of these cases - I mean they definitely come from a time when lacquerware was the thing, so what's up with these? Pre-war privations?! Makes one wonder from where period these atypical red cross boxes came from ... :lol
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