Kev in Deva Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Recently acquired this from a Romanian chap, the ribbon bears the colours of the Belgian Commemorative medal for WW1 if I recall correctly? Its approxamatly:- 43cm x 8cm It has a silver star in a circle which is marked to the rear: "R.J. DE. ROOSTER - BRUXELLES." it also has an Ink stamp. There was also a large clasp type pin often seen for wearing medals on uniforms or civil suits. The pin is marked: "DEPOSE" Any ideas what it was for? Kevin in Deva.
Jef Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Hello Kev, It is not a ribbon but an armbrassard for war disabled. I have been looking in my files for some more detailed information. Unfortunately I was not able to find something so far.... Hope someone else knows more details. best regards, Jef
Jef Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Hello again Kev, I attached two pics of the brassard in my collection. At the back you see how the brassard was sewn together Jef
Kev in Deva Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 Hallo Jef, thanks for the i.d. of the item, I presume for WW1 wounded veterans? the ends of mine have stiching but just hemmed at the ebds and not sewn to gether, I think the large clip was being used to fasten the ends for wear. Do you know the requirements for issuing the brassard? Kevin in Deva.
Jef Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Yes, Kev. First World war. Sorry I should have mention this. I have asked a friend for some details and he even would send a document of this official reward for war disabled soldiers, I believe with invalidity more than 10%. Jef
Jef Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 Goodmorning Kev, I already got this information from the Charles Borné book. Myself, I only have the Henri Quinot book and i was not able to find something about the brassard. I'm afraid the text is written in french, but you're a man of the world so I'm sure you will understand it. I am still waiting for info about the document which was given with the brassard. Info thanks to my friend Peter Roets. Jef It the pics are too small and you cannot read it let me know.
Kev in Deva Posted May 17, 2013 Author Posted May 17, 2013 Many thanks for the info Jeff love the "man of the world" comment Kevin in Deva.
Kev in Deva Posted May 17, 2013 Author Posted May 17, 2013 Ok I also got the folowing in:- "WOUND MEDALS, INSIGNIA AND NEXT-OF-KIN AWARDS IF THE GREAT WAR" By ARTHUR H. HOUSTON and VICKEN KOUNDAKJIAN. Instituted on the 17 February 1922 for those more that 30% or more incapacitated by wounds, injured by illness incurred on active service, The wool serge brassard is approximately 8cm by 44cm and is in the colours of the Belgian War Commemorative Medal, it features a metal silver 5-pointed star 25mm in diameter. To the right of the star is the seal of the Ministry of National Defence roughly 37mm in diameter. All authorised issues bear this stamp, brassards without this seal and in materials other than wool serge should be viewed with caution as probably being unofficial. Kevin in Deva.
Jef Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 Hello Kevin, Just got a message the promised document doesn't deal with the brassard.... sorry Jef
Jef Posted May 19, 2013 Posted May 19, 2013 Hello Kev, Thanks to my friend Peter I'm able to show you the brassard in wear. Jef
Kev in Deva Posted May 19, 2013 Author Posted May 19, 2013 Hi Jeff, WOW! Many thanks to your friend Peter. Thats a fantastic picture, I see he sports a British War Medal and two Belgian Inter-Allied War medals but, what is the small medal (last on the top row after the BWM)? Is his name known? Kevin in Deva.
Jef Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Hi Jeff, WOW! Many thanks to your friend Peter. Thats a fantastic picture, I see he sports a British War Medal and two Belgian Inter-Allied War medals but, what is the small medal (last on the top row after the BWM)? Is his name known? Kevin in Deva. Hello Kev, Peter named the pic De Jaeger, so I suppose his name is De Jaeger. I believe the small medal is a MBE . The man might have been a Belgian Allied agent, I suppose. I will ask Peter. kind regards, Jef
Jef Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Hi Jeff, WOW! Many thanks to your friend Peter. Thats a fantastic picture, I see he sports a British War Medal and two Belgian Inter-Allied War medals but, what is the small medal (last on the top row after the BWM)? Is his name known? Kevin in Deva. Hello again, Kev Have been looking to the enlarged pic.... and is it possible the good man wears a British and a Belgian Inter Allied War Medal? Don't think it would have sense to wear two Belgian Victory medals. Jef
Kev in Deva Posted May 20, 2013 Author Posted May 20, 2013 Hello again, Kev Have been looking to the enlarged pic.... and is it possible the good man wears a British and a Belgian Inter Allied War Medal? Don't think it would have sense to wear two Belgian Victory medals. Jef Hallo Jef, No, he is wearing two Belgian Victory medals for sure, the design of the British medal is different to the Belgian ones as is the ribbon colour arrangement. Please see attached pictures:- British model to the left. 2 Belgian models. Kevin in Deva.
Kev in Deva Posted May 20, 2013 Author Posted May 20, 2013 Hello Kev, Peter named the pic De Jaeger, so I suppose his name is De Jaeger. I believe the small medal is a MBE . The man might have been a Belgian Allied agent, I suppose. I will ask Peter. kind regards, Jef Yes its a Member of the British Empire medal (instituted in 1917) with what appears to be the first type version of the "military" ribbon, the military ribbon was instituted in 1918 this model had a thin red stripe in the center. They were officialy issued un-named but many were named privately by their receipiants. Fewer than 2000 medals were awarded before they were discontinued in 1922.
Jef Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Hallo Jef, No, he is wearing two Belgian Victory medals for sure, the design of the British medal is different to the Belgian ones as is the ribbon colour arrangement. Please see attached pictures:- IMG_0383.JPG British model to the left. IMG_0384.JPG 2 Belgian models. Kevin in Deva. You are right Kev. But why does he wear two identical medals.... the more medals, the more sturdy? Jef
Jef Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 Hello Kev, Attached is an official document which allow someone to wear such a brassard. With thanks to my friend Peter. Kind regards, Jef
GM1 Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 Hello Kev, Attached is an official document which allow someone to wear such a brassard. With thanks to my friend Peter. Kind regards, Jef Very nice document, Jef! Thanks for sharing it! Best regards, GM1
lambert Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Hello Kev, Thanks to my friend Peter I'm able to show you the brassard in wear. Jef Two Medals of Victory ?!!! Lambert Edited July 15, 2013 by lambert
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