Arnim Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 I recently had the good fortune to acquire four Slovakian ribbon bars issued during WWII. I believe them all to be genuine. The rarest of the four is the Prince Pribina Order with wreath and swords Two are version of the War Victory Cross with devices - state eagle and silver wreath and swords. The last one is the Bravery Medal - 2nd Class - silver Can someone explain the significance and grade of these ribbon bars and their rarity. Of course I would like to know if they are genuine!http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_06_2013/post-5307-0-71217200-1370482883.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_06_2013/post-5307-0-18641600-1370483062.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_06_2013/post-5307-0-85211300-1370483146.jpg
Arnim Posted June 6, 2013 Author Posted June 6, 2013 I just learned that the last ribbon is not Slovak but the Dutch Mussert Kreuz ribbon bar! That explains the size difference!
Arnim Posted June 6, 2013 Author Posted June 6, 2013 More: Bar with eagle device: Slowakischer Kriegs-Siegesorden - IV. Klasse Bar with silver swords & wreath: Slowakischer Kriegs-Siegesorden - VI Klasse Top bar: Slowakischer Fürst-Pribina-Orden - IV. Klasse The Prince Pribina ribbon is for the lowest order of the award.
utopis Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Very nice ribbon bars. Yep, your attribution is correct. Generally Slovakian awards from the 39-45 period are hard to come by. From time to time you can find frequently awarded medals or lower grades. The higher classes (e.g. grand cross, grand officer and commander) are extremely rare. Collars are of the highest rarity. If you want to get rid of some of the Slovakian stuff from the 39-45 period don't hesitate to contact me.
Arnim Posted June 7, 2013 Author Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) I had not intended to buy any of these. The Pribina I found offered on eBay by a fellow in Bulgaria who was asking much more - I made him a small offer and he took it. The two others I found here in the US - part of a grouping. Neither seller knew what these ribbon bars were or their true value. I took advantage of their ignorance! That is part of life! It is not really whom you know, it is what you know! As a student of history, I look at these objects and wonder who the men were who received these awards and where these ribbon bars have been for 70 years! From now on they will be identified and appreciated! What can you tell me about the Pribina award? Was this ribbon bar awarded to an officer? Was he a Slovak or German, perhaps a Romanian. How did it get to Bulgaria? Perhaps a Bulgarian received this award. Please help me. Edited June 7, 2013 by Arnim
Guest Rick Research Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) I've only ever found one Slovak single ribbon bar here in the northeast U.S. More often the ribbons show up (at least here!) on German ribbon bars--and usually without any devices, since they are too big for the German 15mm width. The construction (tab back, backing plates, form of pin) of these ribbon bars is quite unusual, and seems to have been used in Eastern Europe by other Communist regimes? Has anyone ever seen a multiple awards ribbon bar with 2, 3, or more Slovak ribbons? Why only singles? Edited June 11, 2013 by Rick Research
Dave Danner Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Has anyone ever seen a multiple awards ribbon bar with 2, 3, or more Slovak ribbons? Why only singles? I only have seen this, which I saved from a thread at militaryphotos.net :
Arnim Posted June 13, 2013 Author Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Has anyone ever seen a multiple awards ribbon bar with 2, 3, or more Slovak ribbons? Why only singles? A fellow in Slovakia helped me to identify these ribbon bars. He has a number of ribbon bars and devices in his collection, but only three Slovakian ribbon bars have multiple awards - one is a four-place, the other two are three-place bars. Edited June 13, 2013 by Arnim
Arnim Posted June 13, 2013 Author Posted June 13, 2013 I only have seen this, which I saved from a thread at militaryphotos.net : Slovak officers.jpg Would it be too much trouble for you to identify these officers (and their ribbon bar awards)?
Iver Posted June 13, 2013 Posted June 13, 2013 ..on the right side gen. Malár, on the left colonel of infantry Pavol Kuna...
alan_g Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 Here is my contribution to this thread. I have been lucky to pick up these Slovakian ribbon bars over time. 2, 3 placers and a single bar. The construction is VERY similar to German manufacture, albeit in a narrower scale. The ribbon bar construction is very sturdy and well designed. I think my interpretation of these medals is correct: Bar 1: Slovakian Bravery Medal with enamel roundel "ZA HRDINSTVO 3. Class" Slovakian bravery Medal with Clasp "For Merit" "ZA ZÁSLUHY" commemorative medal for the defence of Slovakia March 1939 Bar 2: Kríž svetovej vojny (WWI commemorative Cross) ? commemorative medal for the defence of Slovakia Sept 1939 Bar 3: Slovakian War Victory Cross "VZK IV. Class"
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