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    Gents,

    Here's a scan of part of a military post stamp on an anniversary medal doc. There's this roman numeral IV after "military post". What does it mean? Would it indicate a department within the unit?

    Thanks in advance for your help!

    Guest Rick Research
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    :Cat-Scratch: Never seen one like that-- how about the whole stamp and award document?

    Posted

    Rick, good to have you back :beer:

    :Cat-Scratch: Never seen one like that-- how about the whole stamp and award document?

    Top secret. :ninja: At one time in another place, at least.

    Seeing as I'm at a roadblock solving this one, I'll probably post later. Stay tuned.

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    No full scans yet, but here's an image of the full stamp/signature area and a description of what's going on: This is from a partial of a group of anniversary award documents to a KGB Colonel in foreign intelligence (the real spies :ninja: ).

    The unit:

    http://shieldandsword.mozohin.ru/kgb5491/structure/1GU.htm

    or in English (and less technical)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Chief_Directorate

    The signature:

    http://shieldandsword.mozohin.ru/personnel/kirpichenko_v_a.htm

    Kirpichenko was both Deputy Head of the Main Directorate and head of Directorate "S" ("Illegal Espionage", or non-official cover). It was an administrative fact that if you held one post, you simultaneously held the other. Several additional medal docs are signed by other generals who occupied the same positions. The stamps on those vary, however. Some just have the military post, some are from an unrelated bureaucratic department.

    The question is, again, in this context, what does the "IV" mean? Does it indicate the Fourth Department of the First Main Directorate (Western Europe)? Does it indicate the Fourth Department of Directorate "S" (the Americas)? Or does it mean something entirely different (or nothing at all)?

    Unfortunately, despite the recipient's rank (high enough to lead some sub-department), I haven't been able to trace him. But then again, there are much higher-ranking KGB types who are even less traceable.

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