(HELP) Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee medal - genuine or copy?

[Dave_]

Hello, I bought a Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee in a big bag of medals at a local auction. I have done some digging, and I am not sure whether this medal is genuine or a copy. It is not marked 'copy' and has quite soft lines on the gown and crown which I read in an old topic here are a characteristic of the original medal. However, that topic was from 2005 and I was unable to access reference pictures provided in that thread, so I decided to ask for help. Sorry for the second picture being so dark but I forgot to take it when photographing new items and had to shoot it later without my lighting setup.

I hope an expert on here can help me identify the origin of this piece. Also, as I am not a collector but a reseller, I'd be grateful if somebody could provide me with a quote for the value of this medal, if it's genuine (offers welcome )

Thank you for your time!

[Robin Lumsden]

Hello Dave.

I can't be sure from your pix.

However, I was presented with one of these things, and later bought a wearing copy.

The presentation item is on the left here, with the copy on the right.

Comparison might help you.

[Robin Lumsden]

Better picture of 'the real thing' .................

[Robin Lumsden]

On reflection .............. I think yours is an original.

Keep an eye on this link for the next 3 days and you should have a good idea of proven 'market value' ................

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Queens-Golden-Jubilee-Medal-1952-2002-Genuine-/271232140283?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item3f26b203fb

[Dave_]

Thank you very much for your time Robin.

Based on comparing the details, it looks more like the original indeed. However, it does not have the little black thing where the medal is hinged.

Also, it has no certificate or box, I found in a bundle of stuff I bought at a local auction...is there anyway the mint that produced these could certify it?

[Robin Lumsden]

Hello Dave.

Don't worry about the 'black thing' ........... it's just the black thread that the tailor used when mounting the medals.

These were made by The Royal Mint (unlike the Diamond Jubilee Medals) so I suppose the Mint might certify it if you contacted them. However, I don't think that would be worth the time and effort, as these medals are becoming more common on the marketplace by the day.

When they were issued, they were like hens' teeth on eBay, but as time goes on, more and more of them are being disposed of.

They were once over £300 a pop, but I think the market value is now probably about £40-50 or so for an unboxed one.

Hope this helps.

[Pylon1357]

There are some rather high quality Tailor Copies of the Golden Jubilee Medal. Based on these supplied photos, I would not free comfortable answering either way. These darn jubilees are a tough thing to photograph.

I had a Canadian issued one but let it go to a buddy who lost his medals and needed replacements rather quickly. He tried to return them, ( the jubilee and other medals that represented his entitlement) but I refused. He is a 93 year old WWII veteran, who is, even to this day, a very hard working gentleman.

[Dave_]

Hello Pylon, thank you for your insight. I know, I don't feel comfortable selling this as genuine and potentially misleading someone

I'm going to list it on ebay as 'suspected genuine' with a link to this thread and let people judge for themselves.

These are other pieces that I have found in the same box: do they provide any clues? (obviously the driving award does not and I know about the National Fire Service badge ) The paratrooper badge looks cool to my amateur eye.

[Pylon1357]

Dave, I would not dismiss the Golden Jubilee medal out of hand. From the photos provided, it looks good. But it could be a very good tailors copy as well. Having said that, I would want better photos before I would commit one way or the other.

As for the para badge, not my area so much. It looks ok to me, but I am far from an expert on these. The eagle? not a clue. It appears to me that it could be off the top of a presentation piece or some such, as it appears to have a screw post coming off the bottom of it so when its mounted it resembles flight?.

[Dave_]

Yes, the eagle has a screw, I was thinking maybe a WWI helmet ornament?

The para badge seems to be pretty standard, it has no regiment markings unfortunately, and no original pin at the back.

Would you like some more photos of the Golden Jubilee Medal?

[Nick]

I have usually found copy Golden jubilees to be over defined especially the ermin collar of her robes which stand out and feel noticeable if you rub your finger over them.

[Pylon1357]

Sorry for the slow reply Dave. I do think that clearer cleaner photos would help for sure. As I said above, I have seen some very good copies out there, bu they thankfully seem to be far and few between. Most copies are fairly easy to spot thankful.

[Dave_]

[Pylon1357]

To me it looks like you have a winner Dave,