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    Posted

    He is not an Admiral. That is Generalmajor Paul v. Hoepfner, the Inspekteur of Marine-Infanterie between 1896 and 1902.

    Regards

    Glenn

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    Where (how?) are you finding all these wonderful photos?

    They aren't where WE are.... never mind where YOU are!

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    But NOT known for having lots of closet space to store old junk.

    My fellow New Englanders (descendants of excellent British looters) keep things for generations... until they move into a condo in Florida with no attic or cellar! :cheeky:

    Posted

    Yes, that's true!

    Russia is practically like Florida - no attics or cellars whatsoever.

    Only the water here is a little bit colder ... edb2164c3054f6c7e181c4cc476889e0.gif

    Posted

    Beautiful, these transitional First Type breast stars hardly ever appear in photographs.

    Glenn - would you know if Hoepfner served in China (Boxer Rebellion?) during 1896-1902? The period aligns nicely with the period of the First Type Double Dragon breast stars.

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted (edited)

    In the second post the closeup shows him wearing the China Campaign Medal for combatants with (man this is a sharp photo) bar "Nan-Hung-Men" in next to last place on his medal bar.

    As Generalmajor, von Höpfner commanded 3. Ostasiatische Infanterie Brigade (5. nd 6. OA Inf Regimenter), for which he received the Red Eagle Order 2nd Class with Oakleaves and Swords (RAO2EX), Bavarian Military Merit Order-Commander with Swords (BMV2X), and OldenburgHouse Order-Commander with Star and Swords (OV2aX, replacing previous no swords Commander 2nd Class which he is wearing here). Since he is not wearing either the Bavarian or upgraded Oldenburg Orders in this photo, that should help narrow down date of the portrait. (The China Medal was issued in 1902.) By 1902 he was back in Germany as the Commandant of Berlin under Military Governor Generaloberst von Hahnke.

    He received the Double Dragon some time between 1897 and 1901. I don't have access to the naval rank lists 1897-1900 at the moment, but wonder if he actually received that award in Germany before the Boxer rebellion, for something to do with a visiting Imperial military delegation?

    Edited by Rick Research
    Posted

    Thanks Rick! This aligns perfectly with the period of issue for the First Type Double Dragon breast stars.

    Cheers!

    • 8 months later...
    Posted

    Hmmm

    What we have here?

    DD (1 grade 3rd class) of course

    +

    Prussian Red Eagle Order, grand cross with oak leaves
    Prussian Order of the Crown II. class
    Bavarian Military Merit Order II. class
    Saxonian Order of Albrecht, commander's cross
    Russian Order of St. Stanislaus II. class with star
    Norwegian Order of St. Olav II. class
    Prussian Memorial Badge for the Silver Wedding 1906 on the ribbon of the Red Eagle Order
    Prussian Red Eagle Order III. class with crown and the white-orange bow
    Prussian Long Serive Award for 25 years
    Prussian Centenary medal

    • 2 months later...
    • 2 weeks later...
    Posted

    Possibly not. A French and a British officer of the foreign intervention force who both received 3rd Classes received the old First Type neck badges.

    So it's likely the Boxer Rebellion awards were the old First Type badges, or perhaps the transitional First Type breast stars.

    This neck badge appears to be the mid-period Second Type badge, which is the most frequently encountered style.

    Great images by the way Nick. Thanks for posting them. :cheers:

    Posted

    So it's likely the Boxer Rebellion awards were the old First Type badges, or perhaps the transitional First Type breast stars.

    We need more documented groups with DD to prove it ;)

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