deptfordboy Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Afternoon Gents, This badge has been in my collection a while. I know there are a lot of Schwerin fakes, so wanted to ask the opinion of the learned members here. Many Thanks in Advance Gilbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deptfordboy Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 reverse pin closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deptfordboy Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 Lastly, indoor shot face on (weather is disgusting in London today!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 (edited) Lastly, indoor shot face on (weather is disgusting in London today!)I do not believe that yours is a good one. I have attached what the mark should look like from another thread on this forum. Yours is typical of the post-war reproductions. I think I can see a casting line on yours also.John Edited February 20, 2006 by John Robinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deptfordboy Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 Hmm, that doesn't sound good. Does anyone else have an opinion? Please? Gilbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Can you measure the overall width and height. If its a casting these will probably be somewhat less that an original die striking. First impressions are that the detailing is a bit "soft", the shape of the pin isn;t right and the maker mark doesn't quite look right and is very deeply struck which would be very unusual on an original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deptfordboy Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 (edited) Thanks, I will measure the cross tonight and get back to you. John, where do you see a casting line? That way I can focus on the area in question in further pic's. Gilbert Edited February 20, 2006 by deptfordboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Image attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 One more detail is the size of the maker's mark for that type of hook. Both of these are good badges I believe, so you can compare this with yours. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deptfordboy Posted July 26, 2006 Author Share Posted July 26, 2006 Hi Gents, After far too long, I have at last measured his piece accurately in hope of some definitive proof of it being a 'cast' or not. The dimensions from my specially-purchased electronic calipers are as follows: Thickness measured at 3 o'clock - 3.02mmHeight measured at 6 o'clock - 39.32 mmWidth measured at 3 o'clock - 48.66 mmDoes this throw any light on the subject? Many ThanksGilbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deptfordboy Posted July 26, 2006 Author Share Posted July 26, 2006 And here's a flatbed scan - any opinions? Many Thanks Gilbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBeltram Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Hello Gilbert,I must say I do not like that badge at all. As Gordon says it is too soft in details and the maker mark is too deep and incorrect in size. I know of several just like this for sale here in Arizona, and from the ones I have held they are no good. The badge you have in the photo I would not be happy with.Compare to the original U-boats in the photo supplied by John (my badge is the one on the left w/red background and C catch). This badge was obtained from a 9th US Infantry vet. The stamping of the maker mark alone would cause me great concern.Regards, Jody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Hi Gents, After far too long, I have at last measured his piece accurately in hope of some definitive proof of it being a 'cast' or not. The dimensions from my specially-purchased electronic calipers are as follows: Thickness measured at 3 o'clock - 3.02mmHeight measured at 6 o'clock - 39.32 mmWidth measured at 3 o'clock - 48.66 mmDoes this throw any light on the subject? Many ThanksGilbertGilbert, At this point, I am sure you are relatively convinced on this piece. I would like to see an exact shot like I have in post #11, same size image, of the maker's mark, and if you have the ability with a decent photo program, put it side by side. If not, just post the image and I will do it. Make it as close to the image in #11 as possible.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deptfordboy Posted July 27, 2006 Author Share Posted July 27, 2006 Thanks Guys, I owe it to myself and you to take some decent snaps of this thing - I agree that the evidence so far doesn't seem encouraging. Based on the info we do have so far, how do the measurements shape up?Cheers Gilbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Thanks Guys, I owe it to myself and you to take some decent snaps of this thing - I agree that the evidence so far doesn't seem encouraging. Based on the info we do have so far, how do the measurements shape up?Cheers GilbertBest thing is to get the photos and we can put the catch and maker's mark side by side. The measurements at this point is somewhat mute I think. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deptfordboy Posted February 3, 2007 Author Share Posted February 3, 2007 At last I have taken a half decent snap of the stamp and catch for comparison - does this change things at all? I can see similar characteristics with both styles both posted by John, however the stamp is much deeper...Any thoughts?Cheers Gilbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 At last I have taken a half decent snap of the stamp and catch for comparison - does this change things at all? I can see similar characteristics with both styles both posted by John, however the stamp is much deeper...Any thoughts?Cheers GilbertA reproduction in my opinion. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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