Japan What happend here ... I wonder

[JapanX]

And ... he returns with booty before the Sunday

Check out this medal (if possible, please repost close-ups of obverse and reverse in our thread )

http://members.shaw.ca/nambuworld/census.htm

[utopis]

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[JapanX]

That's what I am talking about!

[utopis]

I have to admit that this one is much closer. Not only has it the raised line on the border but also the collar is stronger pronounced than on the first one.

Edited September 19, 2013 by utopis

[JapanX]

Interesting that much more rare Korea Census medals have this feature too ;)

[utopis]

Where did this two medals show up?

[JapanX]

YJ naturally

Btw, all other medals from the same seller look perfectly ok.

[utopis]

So we assume that they were acid treated. What else could scorch the metal like this. The only remaining question is why. The only reason that comes to mind is that this was done to remove oxidation from a ground dug piece.

But why the gilding and adding of a ribbon? To increase the value at most...

[JapanX]

You see ribbons are another strange "go figure" mystery.

Ribbons look like originals (although they look like they also had contact with some kind chemical (?), cleaning liquid (?) )

Interesting, that reverse of boxer bar is not gilded and we see the typical texture of typical bar for typical boxer medal

[Gensui]

Ribbons look like originals (although they look like they also had contact with some kind chemical (?), cleaning liquid (?) )

Nick, I have a very good idea, how to check authentizity of ribbons!

Yours, "burning master" Chris

PS: Honestly, we now that there are possiblities of using washing fluid, which influence structure, haptic etc. of ribbons. E.g. treat cuff titles, until they don't glow under UV-light...

[JapanX]

PS: Honestly, we now that there are possiblities of using washing fluid, which influence structure, haptic etc. of ribbons. E.g. treat cuff titles, until they don't glow under UV-light...

I believe we use these only when we are faking Otto Moritz Walter Model bar

Edited September 21, 2013 by JapanX

[JapanX]

By the way, here comes this Census that I should posted in the first place

[JapanX]

[JapanX]

[Gensui]

Here is mine:

[Gensui]

backside

[JapanX]

No acid?!

No gold gild?!

I don't know about this one mate ... :whistle:

[Gensui]

No, not bearing any traces of acid or other chemical "weapons", not golden gild.

But anyhow, I like it

[JapanX]

Hmmm...

I don't know.

It just like your opinion man ...

Any provenance?

[Gensui]

Hmmm...

I don't know.

It just like your opinion man ...

Any provenance?

No, unfortunately not! Any doubts?

Edited September 22, 2013 by Gensui

[JapanX]

No traces of acid or gold gild and no provenance ...

All we can do now is pray

[utopis]

Now that's what I would call truly destroyed. Looks like Dresden '45.

What do you think happened to this former beauties. I'd say fire...

[JapanX]

Sweet!

Any photos of reverses?

[utopis]

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