new ribbon bars

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Hi everybody,

Please find my new ribbon bars

Christophe

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the back

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Have a look of the ribbon bar with WMVO

Christophe

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A close up of the wreath

Christophe

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It is interresting to see that the same wreath was used for the Austrian ribbon (without enameled). For me this the first time I see such wreath on Austrian ribbon

Christophe

[Guest Rick Research]

That's a nice group!

[Stogieman]

And some especially nice devices!

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Hi,

Do you think the Wurttemberg ribbon bar is tracable ? I have found some officers in the RL 1925 who had EK2, WM3, ?M3K. But like we can't find some TR medals. May be this officer didn't survive till this date. I will give the name in the next post. Just to find one more time.

Regards

Christophe

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I found my paper.

In RL 1925 :

- Hauptmann von Graevenitz

- oberleutnant von Alberti

- Oberleutnant B?haimb.

Thanks for your help

Christophe

[Guest Rick Research]

No, this wearer was in the civil service (long service cross), not career military. Those three were career officers and WW2 generals.

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Thanks Rick for your reply. Sorry I have a "stupid question". Like it is not my speciality. The TR civil service was decerned for people who retired from army or what ? Who could receive this award ?

The wearer of this bar couldn't have a command during the WW2, because we can't find WW2 awards. Maybe he died before 1939. Thanks a lot for your help.

Regards

Christophe

[HeikoGrusdat]

the 3.Reich civil crosses for 25 and 40 (and 50...) years were given to all the ofiicials of the reich in civil service: post office, financial ministry, all kind of administrations........many people could get it.

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Many thanks Heiko

Christophe

[Guest Rick Research]

He could well have been a regular officer during the FIRST war, and been recalled as a zV officer in the SECOND... or been "der Reserve" in both.

But that means he was most likely a Hauptmann, either way, and not in any military Rank List.

Here's a Bavarian "retread" with the 25 years civil service-- a reserve officer (Hauptmann) in Pionier Bataillon 5 in his late 40s:

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He could have been a school teacher, a government employee... anything in his civilian job, called back for the war in junior rank and senior years!!!!

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Many thanks for the explanations Rick. Nice photo.

Regards

Christophe