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    Some interesting items, indeed. The 1870 EK1 is definitely not an awarded type, but may be a 19th Century copy.

    As for the HHO member's cross with swords, this example may be pre-1945, but is definitely not an awarded example, either. There are supposed to be pieces made by C.E. Juncker during the 3rd Reich era, and this may be one of those.

    Tim

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    Looking at this auction and those few German orders for some days know I would like to make everybody interested in this aware of the following details:

    a) Prussian Red Eagle Order-3rd Class w/Crown & Swords.

    This piece was definetly a regular Red Eagle Order with Crown. Somebody attached the swords after the fact. There is a nice detailed picture of the one swords whowing the glue that holds it in place. This picture shows also the former mounting of the center medaillion into the cross.

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    b) Prussian Order of the Royal Hohenzollern Houseorder with Swords

    Please be aware that there were only 16 pieces awarded. The piece in the auction does not have real Wagner made swords. It looks to me that they are not coined. This can be seen when looking closely at the hilts of the swords.

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