Saxony Albert Cross question

[E Williams]

In what class is this cross? I know the swords donate bravery but I can't find a photo giving more info. I found bronze without swords and enameled with swords giving there classes but not this one.

Thanks

Ed

[dond]

That is the Albrechtkreuz with swords. The enameled ones are Knights Crosses (1st or 2d class).

[E Williams]

That is the Albrechtkreuz with swords. The enameled ones are Knights Crosses (1st or 2d class).

Thanks Don, in what class is this Albert Cross, 1st, 2nd etc?

I've come across a bronze example also.

Was it considered just as a Albert Cross with or without swords and has no class designation? If so, was the use of bronze a late war example?

Edited January 26, 2014 by E Williams

[dond]

Do you have a pick of the bronze one? As far as I know this one came only in one class, with or without swords.

[E Williams]

This one, so different in many ways. This one is described as a War Merit Medal:

[E Williams]

I understand now, the War Merit was lower than the Albert Cross and it came with and without swords. Just wanted to make sure I knew what I was searching for.

Thanks............

My mind in still at church............chatting up the preacher's wife.

Edited January 26, 2014 by E Williams

[dond]

The War Merit Cross is a completely different award and not part of the Albrecht series of awards.

[E Williams]

The War Merit Cross is a completely different award and not part of the Albrecht series of awards.

The Albrecht Cross is the lowest in the series then.

[Chris Boonzaier]

Lower, but I think it is worth just a tiny bit more than the 2nd class inspite of being lower.

[E Williams]

Lower, but I think it is worth just a tiny bit more than the 2nd class inspite of being lower.

What's a going price for a nice Albert Cross w/swords with ribbon?

[redeagleorder]

Just to clarify, the War Merit Cross came only as is shown, no swords were ever awarded with it. And only the silver cross which was awarded to NCOs is called the Albert Cross (Albrechtkreuz). All other awards of this series are the Albert Order. And the Albert Cross isn't part of the 'class' system like the orders, there is only one 'class' of it so there is no need for such a distinction

An Albrecht Cross with swords and ribbon will cost anywhere from 275-350 euro, depending on condition, dealer, etc... Although these are not really my area so don't take my word for it too much.

Also, the Albrecht Cross without swords was a peacetime award. The design changed in 1909 so that later crosses were one rather than multipiece construction. The older (pre-1909) ones are worth more and are IMO nicer.

[E Williams]

The older (pre-1909) ones are worth more and are IMO nicer.

Thanks for that info.....

I have found the Bavarian pre-war Order of Military Merit with the enameled arms in the same catagory. Real nice award.

Edited January 27, 2014 by E Williams