utopis Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I thought we discussed this fake extensively already (-> http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/52001-fakes-quality-slowly-and-not-expertly-is-on-the-raise/page-18) But since this fake still sells for ridiculous amounts maybe we should have a look on it, again. Just look at that: $1.150 already!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEAUTIFUL-2nd-CLASS-ORDER-of-RISING-SUN-MEDAL-BREAST-BADGE-JAPANESE-JAPAN/380907055647?_trksid=p2050601.c100085.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211132617%26meid%3D7008464255839801309%26pid%3D100085%26prg%3D20140211132617%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380907055647%26clkid%3D7008466890564561789&_qi=RTM1562569 By the way another one for our list of fake sellers - this atrocity is described as 100% original (and to describe it as "beautiful" is an act of sacrilege against the whole collector-hood). This fake is the whole package: -incorrect shape (white rays don't match the length of the star base) -very bad gilt paint -low quality white enamels -very low quality red enamel cabochon (the real one isn't dull, it's like a red mirror) -screws look like they were bought from the hardware store -wrong stamp pattern of the seals -very low quality hinge -star base has an irregular shape -cut-out was made very crudely -the fake patina colour doesn't look like a real patina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 100% fake. No doubt about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINBOW CHOCOLATE Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 a sad state of affairs, what's next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Phaleristical Apocalypse is coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieter1012 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I know the seller to be honest, who also has quite some knowledge on Japanese orders and medals. I have often bought from him and have always been very satisfied with what I got. Perhaps he had a lapse with this one, but to put him immediately in the same category of those who really sell fakes on ebay, does him, in my opinion, no justice. Pieter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Perhaps he had a lapse with this one, but to put him immediately in the same category of those who really sell fakes on ebay, does him, in my opinion, no justice. Of course not! We all make mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utopis Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 Maybe... Still it's his listing saying 100% original. That's just sloppy Additionally: He is now informed so if he doesn't take down the listing he still sold a fake which, technically seen, is the essence of a fakes seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Yep, it would be nice to know what Rich is thinking about this piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINBOW CHOCOLATE Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 The explanation should prove to be an interesting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 -screws look like they were bought from the hardware store They are currently working on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Top-shelf stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINBOW CHOCOLATE Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Was there ever an explanation from the seller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINBOW CHOCOLATE Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Fake rising sun medals have a signature and constant metallic "shine", the fake that was offered here has the exact same metallic shine, bumping the thread so folks can compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINBOW CHOCOLATE Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Take note of the red cloisonné enamel on this fake rising sun breast star (pictures in top posting), if you learn to recognize the fake cloisonné metallic shine it can save you much heartache. I only point this out to help others avoid some pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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