EK 1870 '70 ek2 with 25-yr oak leaves variant

[Eric Stahlhut]

here's a typical godet cross in rough, marginally-relic condition. core needs a bit of maintenance.

 

the thing that caught my eye, however, was the oak leaves. i didn't have this type yet. the oaks don't have splints on the back, and one of the threads attaching has partially broken

 

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Edited March 7, 2015 by Eric Stahlhut

[Brian R]

Thanks for posting, Eric. I thought the Type Bs were likely Godets, this one does not appear to be one.

[Brian R]

I wish I were an expert of the oaks, but I'm far from it. Nevertheless, it is interesting to see the way they are tied down. Quite unique.

[Eric Stahlhut]

hi brian,

 i just now saw your reply, and am unsure of what you meant. did you mean that the cross is not a godet, or that it is not a good one?

it seems ok to me

best regards, eric

 

[Brian R]

Hi Eric - I can't see your pics anymore. However, I wasn't saying it wasn't original, I was just saying I didn't think it was Godet.

[Eric Stahlhut]

aha, i know what happened...i found a very similar example described as such on a major dealer's site (description has since been altered), and relied on the info. shame on me for not being thorough and for not using better sense... tsk, tsk.

thanks for the correction!

[Streptile]

Godet oakleaves design is very recognizable but I don't see any photos here.

[Eric Stahlhut]

trevor, please revisit this thread once the issues have been resolved--i'm sure they'll be back shortly

[kasle]

trevor, please revisit this thread once the issues have been resolved--i'm sure they'll be back shortly

Looking forward to see the photos for third week. ​Maybe it would be better - and quicker - to repost the pics.

[Eric Stahlhut]

ok, not sure which exact pics i originally posted, but

 here are the oaks

and here are close up ugly shots of the cross

[Streptile]

Nice original set but in my opinion the oakleaves are not Godet types, and the core is a so-called "Type A" which is not the core usually associated with Godet pieces (although they did use it). Although I haven't studied the frame details (which is pretty hard on this example) I tend doubt either piece is by Godet. Definitely a nice original though.

[Streptile]

Godet oakleaves type (in my opinion).

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[kasle]

I would just add, that your nice A type cross has experienced horrible repaint, Eric. Or better said, first paint over blackening. It dramatically hides the details of the crown and gives ground dug look to this quite valuable cross. I think hot air pistol would be very helpful in such case. As you see, this garage door style paint is already cracking out, so it is only question of time when it will contaminate the display (or storage) place. Gun oil or pure WD40 is better in keeping Franco-Prussian war cross from rusting.
I would be also interested in seeing the reverse of the jubileum clasp - if the oaks are hollow struck and what is the position of (broken) prongs. If they were attached at the center, or from the sides.

[Eric Stahlhut]

hi, i peeked behind the clasp, and it is hollow struck---the round wire prongs were placed on the sides. very difficult to take a picture without damaging the threads, which are already somewhat loose on one side