SURVIVABILITY OF MEDALS TO CANADIAN SCOUTS

[QSAMIKE]

GOOD EVENING GENTLEMEN......

I Have decided to take on the project of compiling a list of all the existing Queen's South Africa Medals either in singles or in groups named to.....

THE CANADIAN SCOUTS

I would ask the assistance of all members of the forum if they can provide me with the following information.....

1. Name, Rank and Regimental Number (Note: Some medals were issued without a Number).

2. Style of Name Unitt: CAN. SCOUTS, CANAD'N SCOUTS, CANADIAN SCOUTS

3. Bars on the medal.

4. If part of a Group the other medals in the group.

5. Country of Location. I do not want any personal information just Country.

All information will be kept confidential and I may possibly be able to pass on some information to you......

Thank you in advance for any assistance that you can provide.....

Mike

[QSAMIKE]

Still Looking......

 

Thanks

 

Mike

[Marcon1]

Hiya, 

i found some details in DNW medal archive..

 

Lot 539

Date of Auction: 21st May 2020

Sold for £6,500

Estimate: £5,000 - £6,000

The rare ‘Raised Dates’ Q.S.A. awarded to Private T. H. A. Williams, Lord Strathcona’s Horse, who was wounded at Rietfontein in July 1901 and was later a Captain in the Canadian Scouts

Queen’s South Africa 1899-1902, reverse with dates in relief ‘1899 1900’, no clasp (425 Pte. T. H. A. Williams, Ld. Strathcona’s H:) inverted apostrophe as normal, nearly very fine £5,000-£6,000

Footnote

Approximately 62 medals with the dated reverse were issued, mostly (58) to men of Strathcona's Horse. Williams is entitled to 3 clasps, Natal, Orange Free State and Belfast. His K.S.A. medal, disc only without suspension, named ‘Capt: T. H. A. Williams, Candn: Scouts:’ was sold in these rooms in March 2020 (Lot 1231).

Thomas Henry Addams Williams was born in Monmouth, Wales, in about August 1864, and enlisted for Lord Strathcona’s Horse at Nelson, B.C., on 8 February 1900, aged 34 years 6 months, a surveyor by profession. In June 1900 Strathcona’s Horse joined Sir Redvers Buller’s Natal Field Force. ‘From the moment of their arrival, they served with marked success. I can hardly speak too highly of the value Strathcona's Horse have been to the Natal Field Force.’ (Buller’s Despatch, London Gazette February 1901 refers.) They took part in seven major actions as part of the Earl of Dundonald's 3rd Mounted Brigade. The unit suffered 50 casualties, 12 killed in action, 14 died of disease, 24 wounded. After the occupation of Pretoria and the annexation of the South African Republics, Lord Roberts declared the war to be over and left for England in December 1900. As a privately sponsored unit whose contractual year of service was close to its expiry, Lord Strathcona’s Horse was one of the first to be withdrawn. The regiment embarked at Cape Town on 20 January 1901, but Williams did not go with them because he had already enlisted into the Prince of Wales’s Light Horse (No. 20482). Shortly afterwards, in June 1901, he received a commission as a Lieutenant (and later a Captain) in the Canadian Scouts, and was slightly wounded at Rietfontein on 9 July 1901, the circumstances of which are described in the following two extracts taken from Jim Wallace’s Knowing no Fear, the Canadian Scouts in South Africa 1900-1902:

‘In a skirmish one of the Canadian Scouts had his horse shot out from under him and he was immediately seized by eight Boers. When left with two of his captors, the Scout managed to lead them within range of a small kopje held by a patrol of the King’s Royal Rifles. This movement exposed one of the Boers and the officer in charge of the patrol promptly shot him. The Scout then slipped out a pistol, which he had somehow concealed and shot the other Boer. The Scout was probably Lieutenant Thomas Williams, a former Strathcona, who had the end of his finger shot off when he was captured. According to the Toronto Globe, two of Williams’s captors marched him about a hundred yards when he drew his pistol, which had somehow been overlooked when he was searched, and shot them both.’

‘Captain Thomas Williams, who made an intrepid escape after being captured by the Boers near Rietfontein in July 1901, was Mentioned in Despatches ‘for conspicuous good services in General B. Hamilton’s operations in the Ermelo District in December and January last.’

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Another bit of info:

 

Queen’s South Africa 1899-1902, 3 clasps, Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal (392 Tpr. W. H. Langford, Canadian Scouts) very fine £80-100

Footnote

William Henry Langford, who was issued with the above described Medal and clasps in April 1903, was also sent a “South Africa 1902” clasp in November 1905.

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And another bit of info:

 

King’s South Africa 1901-02, 2 clasps, South Africa 1901, South Africa 1902 (39223 Tpr. J. G. White, Canadian Scouts), very fine £40-50

Footnote

J. Green White also served in the C.-in-C’s Bodyguard (No. 25075) and the Cape Garrison Artillery (No. 268) and was entitled to the Queen’s South Africa Medal with “Cape Colony”, “Orange Free State” and “Transvaal” clasps.

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These were the only 3 items they had regarding Canadian Scouts.

Hope there is something of use among them.

Regards, Marcon1.

 

[QSAMIKE]

Thank You Marcon.......

I know where the Williams medal is located and Langford is in my collection, I missed bidding on the White medal.....

Oh yes the picture that is with Williams is not Williams .....

Mike

 

Edited November 21, 2020 by QSAMIKE

[QSAMIKE]

Bumping Up To The Top......    Still Looking......

Mike

 

[QSAMIKE]

Just Bumping Up To The Top......   Still Looking......

 

Mike

[azyeoman]

Hi Mike,

 

Here’s a group that’s missing the KSA. 

 

Queen’s South Africa 1899-1902 with four clasps: Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal, Laing’s Nek

 

429 Corpl: A. Scott. Canadian Scouts

 

Bronze 1902 Coronation 1902 medal - unnamed as awarded.

 

In USA. 

[azyeoman]

429 Bat Sgt Major A Scott’s medals missing his KSA.

Hopefully this will help you Mike, cheers, John

Edited September 18, 2022 by azyeoman