Daffy Duck Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I am presenting two Orders of the White Eagle with swords, which should be produced by the same Parisian company Arthus Bertrand. Nevertheless, there are striking differences between them. They are both representing e.g. War production, where the swords, blue enameled ribbons and central medallion were produced from one piece of metal. Eagles heads look completely different, and on the reverse the central medallion, including red enamel and even the it's shape shows striking differences. The right price has a French mark for silver (Boar's head) on the ring. And the reverse side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knez Andrej Babic Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Excellent pieces, I've been on the hunt for one for awhile, if these or any others are available for purchase or trade please let me know. My cell is 602-810-6436. Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Ostapenko Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 https://alteorden.com/threads/korolevstvo-serbija-orden-belogo-orla.3369/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 There is nothing very strange about minor differences. These were very complex pieces with many parts. Most parts were cast and/or die pressed in silver and then hand finished - on occasion casting/stamping was not great, especially as process was repeated over and over. New moulds/dies had to be made and there would be slight differences when compared side by side. This was fairly common order and many were made. If you take your time (as all serious collectors should....) and study the basics of how things were actually manufactured - these are all within normal variances in such. Enamelling followed the hand finishing of parts and thus can also be slightly different from batch to batch - colours can vary etc. I believe Bertrand used Soyer enamels at the time and those would definitely differ from batch to batch - even opaques. In terms of finishing, this also can differ - particular worker could have used graver of somewhat different faceting or his technique was a bit different and you will see this in how his lines were cut. - this was especially evident to engraved embellish lines on the eagles as those would have been engraved after the enamelling process - a finishing touch so to speak. The blue on the crown pendilia has been replaced in some parts - this is rather obvious though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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