Order of Brilliant Jade (采玉大勳章) - Classes

[Kriegsmarine Admiral]

Hello,

 

I pressume the Order of Brilliant Jade also had 9 classes.

Can anyone tell me which class would the "Order of the Jade on the white neck-ribbon with blue-red ribbon" be?

 

Thanks!

[No one]

Dear Kriegsmarine Admiral,

 

5th class if like this one:

 

 

See here for more:

 

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

[Kriegsmarine Admiral]

11 hours ago, No one said:

Dear Kriegsmarine Admiral,

 

5th class if like this one:

 

 

See here for more:

 

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

Thank you No one. I don't have a photo of the award. Just the name with the colours of the ribbon like I wrote above.

 

Do you have the photos of all 9 classes of the Order of Brilliant Jade with the ribbons visible? I only saw the photo of all 9 classes zoomed in on the centre of the medal on the thread you linked.

Edited October 8, 2023 by Kriegsmarine Admiral

[No one]

Dear Kriegsmarine Admiral,

 

If I may, it's " 采玉勲章 Order of Brilliant Jade". This one "采玉大勳章" is another order: Order of Brilliant Jade - Wikipedia , it's a bit confusing.

 

As for the colors description, the first one is the central one, then towards the hedges 1 / 2-1-2 / 3-2-1-2-3.

I haven't seen a 4th class ribbon, just the description.

 

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

[Kriegsmarine Admiral]

Thank you very much!

So, would the 5th class normally be awarded to someone with Colonel or Captain (Navy) rank?

Because the person that I have received it on 18 November 1937 when he was a Captain (Navy), one rank lower than Rear Admiral.

[No one]

Dear Kriegsmarine Admiral,

 

" So, would the 5th class normally be awarded to someone with Colonel or Captain (Navy) rank? " I don't know.

 

Although I have the lists of awardees and dates in Chinese, I don't have any for November 18, 1937.

 

Some names, phonetically, sound German: Bescherman / Battenbach / Weilter / Retzman etc.

 

The color of the name matches the date.

 

Here are the dates:

 

-4th class: 1-1-1937 / 19-1-1937 / 26-3-1937 / 5-5-1937 / 1-6-1937 / 10-10-1937

 

-5th class: 1-1-1937 / 26-3-1937 / 2-4-1937 / 5-5-1937 / 1-6-1937 / 23-8-1937 / 10-10-1937

 

Do you have the award document or any document?

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

 

[Kriegsmarine Admiral]

I have this document where the award is listed at the bottom.

The officer who was awarded the order was Walter Georg Lohmann. It's possible the date written here is the German approval date, rather than the Chinese award date.

[No one]

Dear Kriegsmarine Admiral,

 

I can't read/understand your document (except for the date 18-11-1937).

I can't find anything. Has he served in China?

Do you have a number for the awarded medal?

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

Edited October 12, 2023 by No one

[Kriegsmarine Admiral]

7 hours ago, No one said:

Dear Kriegsmarine Admiral,

 

I can't read/understand your document (except for the date 18-11-1937).

I can't find anything. Has he served in China?

Do you have a number for the awarded medal?

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

The text in the bottom two rows says in German: "Chinesischer Jade-Orden am weißen Hals-band mit blau-rotem Kante" (Chinese Jade Order on a white neck ribbon with blue-red edge).

He did not serve in China.

I don't have the number for the awarded medal.

[No one]

Dear Kriegsmarine Admiral,

Good news, I think I found him: Lohmann 5th class #90 10-10-1937.

 

 

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

Edited October 12, 2023 by No one

[Kriegsmarine Admiral]

2 hours ago, No one said:

Dear Kriegsmarine Admiral,

Good news, I think I found him: Lohmann 5th class #90 10-10-1937.

 

 

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

Great! Thank you very much!

10 October 1937 is the Chinese award date and 18 November 1937 is the German approval date.

[No one]

Dear Kriegsmarine Admiral,

 

I found the 5th class #91 awarded to 福朗克 (Fú lǎngkè) : Frank, October 10, 1937. So I assume Lohmann received the same set.

 

 

Yours sincerely,

No one