Joel Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Hello everyone, I am looking for information on certain officers of the infantry-regiment nr. 116 (first name, successive postings, possibly photos...) - oberstleutnant Fritz Junge (it seems he served with IR 135) - Major Kühl (several times Rgt Kdr of IR 117 during the conflict) - Major Erich Mansfeld (Rgt Kdr IR 116 from 04/12/1917 (offz der armee 29/08/1918) - Major Meyn (Rgt Kdr of IR 117 from 27/11/1917 to 03/12/1917 (I did find another Major Meyn as regiment-kommandeur of RIR 230 but is this the same officer?) thank you in advance with kind regards Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 You might know? https://ordensmuseum.de/Regimentsgeschichten/IR116.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 Hello Bernd-W Unfortunately it doesn't cover the period of the 1st World War (that's the period I'm interested in). Thanks all the same sincerely Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) Yes, I know, but normally you dont spawn as a i.e. Major at the Battlefield in 1914. So you might find them in the books as i.e. Lts. 117 is also online: https://ordensmuseum.de/Regimentsgeschichten/IR117.pdf Sometimes this page merge two chronics /books into one, so you have to scroll till the end and take a look if it also covers WW1. But its not the case for this books, I had a look. In the so called "Fest-Buch" for the "Großer 116er Tag Gießen 5. - 7. Sept. 1925" is a list of the guests of honor: Oberst Meyn is mentioned. And a Oberst a. D. Mansfeld and Oberst a. D. Jungé (sic!) So you could have a look for Meyn in the Reichswehr ranklist 1924: https://www.sbc.org.pl/dlibra/publication/392739/edition/370125 Page 95: Infanterieschule München 1. Lehrgang Leader: Oberst Meyn. There is only one Meyn in the ranklist, so its likely him. In the "Grossherzoglich hessische ordensliste 1885,1890,1894,1898" I did not find any of the names, I guess its to early for them to have received any awards. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiug.30112089248626&seq=7&q1=Meyn Edited May 11 by Bernd_W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted May 11 Author Share Posted May 11 Hello Bernd-W Many thanks for your reply. I should have thought of it sooner... I haven't found any other information on my IR 116 officers (apart from Meyn's presence in the 1924 Reichswehr Rangliste). However, I did manage to watch the entire book on IR 117 and I did find traces of young lieutenants who were still with the regiment at the start of the First World War (Heinrich Von Westernhagen, who joined IR 115, and Major Fritz Henrici, battalionkommandeur and then regimentführer of 117....). In short, I'm delighted to be able to include a few first names and career paths in my photos. Many thanks again and have a good weekend. Sincerely Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) I have the book: Albert Hiß: Infanterie-Regiment Kaiser Wilhelm (2. Großherzoglich Hessisches) Nr. 116 (Erinnerungsblätter deutscher Regimenter, Band 104 preuß. Anteil); 231 Seiten, Oldenburg: Stalling; 1924. If you thought about buying it, you wont find any named pictures in there, there are pictures but w/o any names. Also there are no "Stellenbeschreibungen" in the appendix, only in the continuous text sometimes. If you are interest in hessian officers pictures here is Major von Goessel (Stolen from eBay). 1908 and 1914 Ranklist: Hauptmann at IR 118 January 1915, RIR 254, Commander of the 1. Battalion March 1919, IR 118,Commander of the 3. Battalion He build up the Freikorps Hessen. Edited May 11 by Bernd_W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 Hello Bernd-W I already have the Erinnerungsblätter for IR 116, which is available here: https://portal.dnb.de/bookviewer/view/1031432264#page/n0/mode/thumb Unfortunately like all Errinerungsblätter, which are simplified works and there are not many photos (unlike a regimental history). Some don't even have photos of successive commanders, which is a real shame. I hope to find traces of these officers in other regiments and why not a photo.... I've already found quite a few photos of regimental and battalion commanders in other works as they were posted during the conflict. Thank you for the photo of Major Von Gössel, it will find its place in my photographic database. bonne fin de week-end sincerely Joel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arb Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Joel, Some information for you Andy Kay Meyn (20.11.1872-18.12.1940) 31.01.28 m. Char. als Gen.Maj. d. Absch. bew. 01.02.26-31.01.28 Kom. d. 9. Inf. R. (Potsdam) 01.04.24-01.02.26 Leiter d. I. Lehrgang d. Inf. Sch. 31.10.22-01.04.24 Komdt. v. Magdeburg 01.01.21-31.10.22 Kom. d. III./12. Inf. R. (Magdeburg) [02.09.18 b. Regiment eingetroffen] 25.08.18-13.01.19 Kom. d. Res. Inf. R. 230 01.10.12-1914 Chef 8./Inf. R. 175 (Graudenz) [22.04.-26.05.08 k.z. III. Lehrkursus b.d. Inf. Schießsch.] 18.05.07-01.10.12 Chef 4./Jäg. B. 9 (Ratzeburg) 21.07.04-18.05.07 in 1./Jäg. B. 9 (Ratzeburg) 01.10.01-21.07.04 k.z. Kr. Akad. 01.04.98-31.08.01 Adj. d. Jäg. B. 9 (Ratzeburg) 1897-01.04.98 in 4./Jäg. B. 9 (Ratzeburg) 27.01.93-1896 in 2./Jäg. B. 9 (Ratzeburg) 27.01.93 Sek.Lt. 17.05.92 Port. Fähnr. 01.10.91 als Fahnenj. in Jäg. B. 9 eingetr. Oberst 01-05-23 (2) Oberstlt. 01-10-20 (52) Major 27-01-15 P3p Hptm. 18-05-07 F9f Oberlt. 27-01-02 N4n Leutn. 27-01-93 W5w Erich Mansfeld (02.09.1867-??) 1943 Oberst a.D., Hamburg, Eppendorferstieg 4 31.12.20 d. Char. als Oberst u.d. Erlaubn. z. Tr. d. Unif. d. Füs. R. 73 erhalt. 05.11.20 d. Absch. bew. 1920 im Reichsw. Schützen R. 18 29.08.18 v.d. Armee 04.12.17-29.08.18 Kom. d. Inf. R. 116 05.05.17 verw. 12.09.16-04.12.17 Kom. d. Inf. R. 394 14.10.14-12.09.16 Kom. d. Res. Jäg. B. 9 02.08.14 Kom. d. II./Res. Inf. R. 75 01.10.13-02.08.14 b. St. d. Inf. R. 76 (Hamburg) 03.12.12-01.10.13 Chef 1./III. Stamm See B. (Cuxhaven) 21.11.08-03.12.12 Chef 5./III. See B. 01.08.08-21.11.08 im III. Stamm See B. 01.10.06-01.08.08 Chef 2./II. See B. (Wilhelmshaven) 27.01.03-30.09.06 Chef 9./Inf. R. 74 (Hannover) 19.11.01-27.01.03 in 4./Inf. R. 74 (Hannover) 08.07.00-19.11.01 im 3. Ostas. Inf. R. 01.04.00-08.07.00 k.b. Bez. Kom. Hannover als Adj. 01.01.00-31.03.00 k.z. Dienstl. b. Bez. Kom. Hannover 01.04-97-01.01.00 Adj. II./Inf. R. 164 (Hameln) 1896-01.04.97 Adj. II./Füs. R. 73 (Hannover) 1895 in 2./Füs. R. 73 (Hannover) 01.03.94-1894 in 14./Füs. R. 73 (Hannover) 01.10.93-28.02.94 k.z. Milit. Turnanst. 14.02.88-01.10.93 in 6./Füs. R. 73 (Hannover) 14.02.88 Sek.Lt. 14.05.87 Port. Fähnr. 22.09.86 als Fahnenj. in Füs. R. 73 eingetr. Oberstlt. 18-08-18 S Major 01-10-13 Bb Hptm. 27-01-03 Ee Prem.Lt. 14-07-95 Hh Sek.Lt. 14-02-88 Fritz Jungé (29.05.1865-1936) 27.03.20 d. Char. als Gen.Maj. m. Wirkung v. 31.03.1920 erhalt. 11.03.19-?? Kom. d. Landw. Bez. I Cöln 11.03.19 m. Pens. z. Disp. gestellt ??-11.03.19 v.d. Armee 12.07.17 Kom. d. Landw. Inf. R. 84 26.01.17-12.07.17 Kom. d. Inf. R. 116 05.11.14-05.03.15 Kom. d. Inf. R. 135 02.08.14 b. Dir. d. Milit. Eisenb. Dir. 2 (Hanau) 22.05.12-02.08.14 Kom. d. I./Inf. R. 130 (Metz) 06.04.09-22.05.12 Lin. Komm. in Erfurt, U.d. Inf. R. 88 15.02.09-06.04.09 Eisenb. Lin. Komm. in Cassel, U.d. Inf. R. 88 22.04.05-15.02.09 Eisenb. Lin. Komm. in Münster, U.d. Inf. R. 88 15.09.04-22.04.05 k.z. Dienstl. b. gr. Gen. St. v. Inf. R. 88 19.09.01-15.09.04 Chef 7./Inf. R. 88 (Mainz) 01.04.97-19.09.01 Adj. d. 84. Inf. Brig. (Lahr) 1896-01.04.97 in 12./Inf. R. 25 (Rastatt) [01.01.-01.04.97 k.z. Dienstl. b. St. d. 29. Div.] [21.07.-19.09.95 k.z. Dienstl. b. St. d. XIV. AK] [25.09.-09.10.94 k.z. Festungs u. Gen. St. Reise d. XIV. AK] 1895 in 6./Inf. R. 25 (Rastatt) 01.10.93-1894 in 11./Inf. R. 25 (Rastatt) 01.12.90-01.10.93 k.z. Bez. Kom. Offenburg als Adj. 1890-01.12.90 in 9./Inf. R. 25 (Rastatt) 1889 in 7./Inf. R. 25 (Rastatt) 1888 in 10./Inf. R. 25 (Rastatt) 1887 in 11./Inf. R. 25 (Straßburg) 20.02.85-1886 in 6./Inf. R. 25 (Straßburg) 20.02.85 Sek.Lt. m. Patent v. 14.02.1885 10.05.84 Port. Fähnr. 16.10.83 als Dreij. Freiw. in Inf. R. 25 eingetr. Oberst 16-09-17 C Oberstlt. 08-11-14 W Major 04-08-09 C2c Hptm. 18-03-99 X2x Oblt. 14-09-93 Leutn. 14-02-85 I have no connection for these officers to Inf. R. 116, but I think they are the best candidates Ferdinand Kühl (04.01.1871-??) 1955 Oberstlt. a.D., Elberfeld, Friedrich-Wilhelm Str. 1 1942 Oberstlt. a.D., Elberfeld, Adolf Hitler Str. 442 1920 Leiter d. Versorgungsamts Erbach i.O. 1918 Kom. d. Res. Inf. R. 88 01.10.13-1914 Chef MG./Inf. R. 88 (Mainz) 15.06.07-01.10.13 Chef 9./Inf. R. 88 (Mainz) 18.05.07-15.06.07 überz. Hptm. in Inf. R. 30 1903-18.05.07 in 2./Inf. R. 30 (Saarlouis) 01.04.02-1902 in 12./Inf. R. 30 (Saarlouis) 01.04.01-31.03.02 k.z. 3./Unteroffiz. Sch. Treptow 18.08.97-01.04.01 k.z. 3./Unteroffiz. Sch. Weißenels 1897-18.08.97 in 11./Inf. R. 30 (Saarlouis) 1896 in 1./Inf. R. 30 (Saarlouis) 1895 in 2./Inf. R. 30 (Saarlouis) 1894 in 11./Inf. R. 30 (Saarlouis) 1893 in 9./Inf. R. 30 (Saarlouis) 22.08.91-1892 in 11./Inf. R. 30 (Saarlouis) 22.08.91 Sek.Lt. 18.11.90 Port. Fähnr. Major 24-12-14 Cc Hptm. 18-05-07 W3w Oberlt. 17-02-00 Mm Leutn. 22-08-91 Otto Kühl (28.05.1872-06.06.1945) 06.06.45 als Oberstlt. a.D. in Kassel gest. 1920 Major, Kassel, Wigandstr. 16 25.07.10-1914 Chef 7./Inf. R. 135 (Diedenhofen) 20.04.10-25.07.10 überz. Hptm. 01.08.08-20.04.10 in 5./Inf. R. 135 (Diedenhofen) 01.09.05-31.07.08 in Schutztr. f. DOA 1905-30.08.05 in 4./Inf. R. 83 (Cassel) 01.10.03-1904 in 3./Inf. R. 83 (Cassel) 01.10.01-30.09.03 k.b. Bez. Kom. Marburg als Adj. 1901-01.10.01 in 4./Inf. R. 83 (Cassel) [01.03.-31.07.99 k.z. Milit. Turnanst.] [04.07.-30.07.98 k.z. Gew. Fabr. Erfurt] 1898-1900 in 9./Inf. R. 83 (Arolsen) 22.03.97-1897 in 4./Inf. R. 83 (Cassel) 1895-22.03.97 in 1./Inf. R. 70 (Saarbrücken) 20.05.93-1894 in 2./Inf. R. 70 (Saarbrücken) 20.05.93 Sek.Lt. 18.10.92 Port. Fähnr. 22.03.97 in Inf. R. 70 eingetr. Major 18-08-16 Oo Hptm. 20-04-10 Rr Oberlt. 12-09-02 G3g Leutn. 20-05-93 O6o 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 Hi Andy, Many thanks for all this very, very valuable information. I'm looking at it all tomorrow...I've got some research to do 😉 with many thanks Sincerely Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted Tuesday at 09:09 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 09:09 Hello, Well, I'm having a bit of bad luck. Either Erich Mansfeld doesn't appear in any of the photos I have, or I don't have the history (yet). The same goes for Fritz Jungé and the two Kühls, Ferdinand and Otto.... On the other hand, I did find Kay Meyn's photo in the history of RIR 230, so that's one for me 😉 It's only a postponement... Thanks again for your precious help. Sincerely Joel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted Tuesday at 11:49 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 11:49 Hello again, I have just received the following information: - Major Kühl (Regiment-führer) of IR 116 from 12/07/1917 is listed as kommandeur of the 2nd Btn of this regiment in March 1918. He took command of IR 332 from 12/04/1918. I only have to find the history of this regiment to find his first name and possibly his photo 😉 with kind regards Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted Tuesday at 12:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:06 (edited) Looks like Meyn was part of the Freiwilliges Landesjägerkorps / Freikorps Maercker. Tessin lists: Quote Freischützenkorps Meyn, errichtet 1918 im Westerwald aus 50. Res. Div. (Rgt. 229, 230, 231) mit Kav.Abt. und Bttr.; wurde als V. Abt. dem Landesjägerkorps angegliedert (dann 3. 5. dessen Jäger-Abt.) Ingo Haarcke lists at No. 599 (w/o a picture) Freischützenkorps Meyn: Quote Ärmelabzeichen: breiter Stoffwinkel Sleeve Badge: broad fabric ribbon. Together with the Freiwilliges Landesjägerkorps collar tabs. Edited Tuesday at 12:15 by Bernd_W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted Tuesday at 14:37 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 14:37 Hello Bernd-w Yes, thank you, I've just seen that. There's a badge on Helmut Weitze's website. It's also mentioned here. https://www.armeemuseum.de/images/publikationen/2018_Katalog_Friedensbeginn_online.pdf many thanks sincerely Joel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd_W Posted Tuesday at 17:15 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:15 Weitze lists this as: Freischützenkorps Berlin / Volkswehrabteilung Meyn Not sure about the Freischützenkorps Meyn is the same like Volkswehrabteilung Meyn. So to speak, the same Guy. Freischützenkorps Berlin / Volkswehrabteilung Meyn is No. 101 in Haarckes book. And no Freiwilliges Landesjägerkorps collar tabs are mentioned there. In Tessin the Volkswehrabteilung Meyn is listed with: Republikanisch e Schutztruppe , errichtet 19. 1. 1919 mit: Freischützenkorps Berlin (Meyn), 5 Abt., als Teil der freiw.Volkswehr; wurde Juni 1919 Sicherheitspolizei Berlin Freischützenkorps Meyn is clearly him because of the picture and arb lists him with: 25.08.18-13.01.19 Kom. d. Res. Inf. R. 230 which is also inTessin: 50. Res. Div. (Rgt. 229, 230, 231) But thanks for the pdf, interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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