Alan Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Hi Guys, When I saw lot 211 in J Kube's auction 146 catalogue, an OZL 1st class with swords, I sent an email to Mr Kube asking whether there was a "D" stamp on the cylinder along with a sample picture taken from the 1st Class OZL in my collection. The reply back was "Dear Sir: lot 211 has a stamp „D“ on the cylinder" With this I thought great and went ahead and submitted my bids and was very pleased when I was successful. Today I received the lots that I had had won and I have a few questions (The Kube OZL is in the middle of the 3 pictured for comparison). When I compared the Doublé marks I was concerned to see that the one from Auction 146 was not similar to all the other marks I had seen previously mainly on Oakleaves. Has any one seen a mark like this? Does the colour of the guiding look correct? Even with possible tarnishing I think it looks off. Before reaching out to Mr Kube I would like to just get more of an understanding as to what this is. Is it a freshly Gilted 2nd class with mark added to try to legitimize a Frankenstein Or a real Silver Gilt 1st class that has a D mark from a different manufacturer All opinions welcome Guys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Hi Alan, Beautiful Orders Thanks for sharing Regards Archie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 I don't have a lot of experience with these, having owned only a few, including one first class with oakleaves, which were of the solid variety (marked for gold content). Your piece looks good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 (edited) 8 hours ago, VtwinVince said: I don't have a lot of experience with these, having owned only a few, including one first class with oakleaves, which were of the solid variety (marked for gold content). Your piece looks good to me. I have to agree with you Vince a good piece… the question is though whether it is a 2nd Class messed with to be a 1st Class with a spurious D gilt mark or a nice original 1st Class with a D gilt mark that is legit, that is the question. I think possibly the former as I have never seen a D mark that wasn‘t raised and framed. Has anyone seen this type of imprint D gilt marking on an OZL before? Edited June 25 by Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtwinVince Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 OK, got it. If it is messed with, it's an extremely slick piece of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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