Unknown Prussian Pin

[Rosenberg]

Hi,

can anyone tell me what pin I have here....

Thanks in advance

[Guest Rick Research]

Some sort of cavalry association from the saddlebags. Timm made Freikorps insignia so this probably dates circa 1919-early 1920s. Never seen anything marked by that company beyond those few years.

[Rosenberg]

Thanks alot ,Rick! Is there a way to determine the Freikorps?

Regards

[Tom Y]

The Order of the Golden Skate Key

[--dj--Joe]

Link to a thread showing obverse and reverse of another HCH TIMM item. Post #111 and #112.

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6291&st=100

--dj--Joe

[--dj--Joe]

Silver version. Obverse.

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--dj--Joe

[--dj--Joe]

Reverse.

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[Rosenberg]

Thanks alot for showing Joe! Do you have any additional info on it? Are silver and gold representing grades?

Regards

[--dj--Joe]

Happy to show it, I do not have any specific information on it as of yet.

Hope to learn more. So far gold and silver examples are all I have seen.

--dj--Joe

[Guest Rick Research]

GREAT to see how these were suspended originally-- quite a peculiar method of attaching to the ribbon!!!

[Rosenberg]

Hi,

I finally found the pin in Huesken It is 9652 "c" and Joe?s looks like "b",Deutsche Krieger Fechtanstalt.

Cheers

[--dj--Joe]

Thanks for the additional info.

Institute for fencing?

--dj--Joe

[Rosenberg]

Institute for fencing?

Yes,Sir! Yours is supposed to be for a "Fechtmeister/Oberfechtmeister" and mine for a "Bezirksfechtmeister".I can only guess that these were sort of grades.

Regards

[--dj--Joe]

Bezirkfechtmeister would be for a district fencing master.

Ober = upper

I wonder what the (bags)? the hands are shaking through would be? Gear bags? Perhaps they are not bags. Any one got a 40's fencing catalog?

Regards, --dj--Joe

[--dj--Joe]

Mr. Rosenberg, I shared the information with the GU.com section of the GD.com forum where I co-moderate. I appreciate very much the effort you put forth in finding this information and you recieved full credit as well deserved.

I did not supply links as I am not sure how the forums are disposed to this practise.

Regards,--dj--Joe

[Ralph A]

I wonder what the "saddlebags" represent? A handguard for foil or epee?

[Rosenberg]

Joe,always welcome!

Those saddlebags do remind me of a fencing "ring" with two fencers symbolised,don?t you raise both hands when fencing-one upfront with the blade and the second somewhat showing to behind to keep the balance?

Regards

[Kev in Deva]

Joe,always welcome!

Those saddlebags do remind me of a fencing "ring" with two fencers symbolised,don?t you raise both hands when fencing-one upfront with the blade and the second somewhat showing to behind to keep the balance?

Regards

Hallo Gentlemen

with regards this thread, I have noticed several medal / insignia items with a pair of hands motif from various countries and I come to the conclusion that they are all linked to the FREEMASON / FREIMAURER Society is it not also possible that the item posted by "d.j" could be a similar item perhaps with a military connection, a Lodge say in a military establishment?

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Kevin in Deva

Edited December 11, 2006 by Kev in Deva