Mongolia What is this?!

[Dolf]

Any idea what this is?

Could it be an attempt to fake the Mongolian coat of arms?!...

I've asked the guy who emailed this pic to me for the "reverse" of such thing, still waiting, will post it if I get it.

Dolf

[Guest Rick Research]

How big is it? Carved out of wood?

[Dolf]

How big is it? Carved out of wood?

Rick,

Have no idea so far! Still waiting for the "reverse" (will it have one?!) pic.

To me it looks like a primary result of a casting mould, and that's why I asked for more opinions.

Scary if it is what I think

Already emailed the original pic received (quite larger than this one posted here) to my expert friend in Mongolia, will have to wait for the verdict.

I really hope it's not at all what I suspect and that I'm only being a bit paranoic...

Thanks,

Dolf

Edited April 15, 2006 by Dolf

[Ed_Haynes]

I am thinking "wall plaque" as in a government office.

There is H04, but this seems not at all to be THAT.

[Dolf]

I am thinking "wall plaque" as in a government office.

There is H04, but this seems not at all to be THAT.

Indeed, not like H 04, Ed.

This one almost looks like a caricature of H 04!

Take a look at the rider, what does it look like to you?

Dolf

Edited April 15, 2006 by Dolf

[Vatjan]

No idea what it is, but I find it has a certain charm, the way the drawings are crudely hand made. The rider's head comes straight out of a comic book.

[Vatjan]

This is what the wall plaques for ministeries etc... look like

[Dolf]

This is what the wall plaques for ministeries etc... look like

Thanks a lot Jan.

So that "thing" I posted is definetely not a wall plaque!

The pic was emailed to me from Ukraine...

Dolf

[Dolf]

No idea what it is, but I find it has a certain charm, the way the drawings are crudely hand made. The rider's head comes straight out of a comic book.

Well, if it is an attempt to forge a coat of arms, that's scary rather than charmy, althought it's quite crudely made...

Now, the reason I asked before about the rider it's exactly because it looks to me like a monkey or something like that!

And you're right, the whole thing looks a bit like if it comes out of a comic book, that's what I meant when calling it a caricature.

Dolf

[Ed_Haynes]

This is what the wall plaques for ministeries etc... look like

Do we know what the earlier ones look like? That is the coat of arms shown here, after all, not the much later version shown in your posting.

Sure, this coiuld easily be a "nothing", but you never know.

[Christophe]

It really looks like a print from an old book... Look at the border; the red color seems to dribble...

Ch.

[Vatjan]

Well, I think we should at least have its dimensions before we can make some more wild guesses as to what it might be.

[Vatjan]

I love the way the animals all have a big smile on their faces, to show how happy they are living in Mongolia

[Ed_Haynes]

Well, I think we should at least have its dimensions before we can make some more wild guesses as to what it might be.

Agreed.

[Ed_Haynes]

I love the way the animals all have a big smile on their faces, to show how happy they are living in Mongolia

Rather like the first variety herders' badge . . . ??

Well, to choose between socialism and feudalism, . . .

[Dolf]

Well, I think we should at least have its dimensions before we can make some more wild guesses as to what it might be.

Jan,

More info have been requested: reverse pic, seize, weight, material (should I ask for anything else?). Still no reply so far.

Dolf

[Dolf]

Well, never got an answer from that guy about that coat of arms...

But I got this one today.

Not the same as the one I posted before, quite a few visible differences.

As for the details (weight, seize, material), I can't obviously compare as I never got this info about that piece.

This one I got today is in silver.

Weight: 38,65gr

Seize: horizontal (approximately from the cow to the sheep's head) ? 62,65cm

vertical (from the top of the star to the bottom) ? 60,78cm

It has a screw on the reverse even thought it came without a screwnut. But no mint mark or S/N.

Dolf

[Dolf]

Reverse:

Dolf

[Dolf]

The two pics above show the piece as I received it.

Anyway, I decided to clean it a bit, so this is how it looks now... (I know, I know... Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa )

Well, it will get some patina and dirt and a worn look again in time...

Notice that my scanner hates shinny metal items (silver, gold...)

Dolf