François SAEZ

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Another one cased

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a gold one, tombac, cased

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A silver one, tombac almost completly covered by patina

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another bronze, tombac, cased

Not often encountered, the emblem of the 4th Staffel of KG4

Another 1

Well, to start with, I am not even sure of the number of variations existing for the N&G we have: First type: convex lenses to deflect debris and conventional arms Second type: retained the rigid, one-piece plastic frame with the addition of an elastic strap. Third type: the frame moulded in 3 sections with a hinged bridge. Type 3 exist in clear or dark version Type 3 and possibly type 2 had a metal storage container (with proper nomenclatura written on it) Cloth bags,removable cases and cardboard cases seems to have existed Type 4: are goggles for night flyers Coud someone post pics, please?

Well Jos, I believe everything should be done AGAIN from the begining, we should start with the literature giving decription (Skotte and others) give description like first, secod third type .......................... show pictures (actual and wartime) show the known copies .............. I am on my way to bed but you should start and on Wednesday I will add

A working theory, it is my opinion that badges made by Assmann in aluminium (both wreath and eagle) have on the back: Right: D.R.G.M. Left: A OR double A

John, is your Assmann also marked DRGM?

What is believe to be the emblem of 7KG1 - A diving eagle

as shown before by John Aufkl?rungsgruppe 123. 2.staffel.

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again, a bronze, tombac, cased

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another bronze, cased, tombac

another info: based on regulations, when one received an upper class clasp, he had normally (again according to the regulations) to give back his old clasp - i.e when he received a silver clasp, he had to give back his bronze one etc, etc .................., it is my opinion that this regulation was NOT respected at all.

Operatinal flights from Spain in the Legion Condor (Spanish civil war 1936-1939) are NOT counted in WWII for the attribution of clasps.

Only reco., bomber and day fighter ONLY had the official blue case for the 3 classes: bronze,silver, gold * It is said that that some special cases were made for clasps with pendant, but if true, they were private purchase