lone wolf

On 05/10/2017 at 19:24, Sahil117 said:

@Brian Wolfe 

@peter monahan

Brian and Peter- I appreciate your replies, truly. I've been looking to contact @Ed_Haynes on Twitter, Facebook etc. Thank you for directing me to his website, of which i had no idea. I'll try reaching him there as well.

Brian, you mentioned that there are several other members, besides Mr Haynes of course, who may be able to help me with the Indian duo- 'Videsh Seva Medal with clasp United Arab Republic', for service in the Gaza Strip in 1964, and the 1965 Indo-Pakistan War, 'Raksha Medal', that I am searching for. Any particular leads that come to mind?

Peter, thanks for the luck wishes! Lets hope before long, I am able to post a picture here of the completed set, occupying its rightful place along with the other family medals.

Sahil.

Woah too many posts, didn't even realized I logged in after good 5 years

Sahi, it's a nice thought however getting hold of a unnamed videsh Seva Medal will be difficult as maximum number of times they are awarded via regiments and many a times quarter masters are in charge of naming them, since you are serving in armed forces you may find one of you have good connects.

Raksha Medal medal is tricky, let me see if I have any in spare I do remember picking a lot of 20 from Chennai based dealer.

Hi All,

There is a sixth GSM not included in this list, clasp SHAQMA - awarded quite recently, I have only ever seen one of these and will try to put a scan up on the site.

HI Ehjaz

we are waiting for the scan, I have contacted a source in pakistan but he is not aware of existence of any such clasp.

I recently came across an Air Crew Europe Star at ebay which is named to Corporal G. Wilson of the Royal Canadian Air Force. it looks pretty ok to me however I am kind of confused with the details on the medal as naming looks ok to me (Boots naming?) but its inscription says he was born on the 5.2.1921 and died on the 14.11.1943.

Although I primarily collect Indian post 1947 medals this one caught my attention I have placed my bid but not too sure if it’s genuine or not but it is worth a try.

Any opinions on this star?

I have one named to IC-337 Lt. CE James 8 Punjab Regt, and I am looking for some info on him I will appriciate if anyone can help me to research this officer.

Thanks

Tailor copies are easy to spot, usually medals are made from individual suppiers so difference is common however if you check the regimental numbers and deployment details then may be you can validate if the group is authentic or not.

there is a possibility of Defence Sports Organisation as well which maintians ASPT (Army School of Physical Training), they have 2 big estabilshments in pune

Can you please post some pictures of the group.

Any leads anyone ?????

you are very welcome :)

Medals and Decorations of Independent INDIA by Rana T.S. Chinna and Edward S. Haynes is the best source of information on post 47 medals check it.

Hi Hesy68,

any update on this star ???????

Of course it is not a Indian award.

Need to check for someone who know Nepali language.

Great star.

I suspect this to be associated to Kingdom of Nepal as the inscription says वीर ता (bravery) but it is not in Devnagri (Hindi).

Might be some kind of bravery award

:cheers:

Hi William,

Thanks for the info.

I have a question ;-

if it is a tailor copy the naming of this medal was pretty much similar to originals which i have, I have checked with a service men and he did confirmed that this pattern of naming is pretty much authentic.

I have checked with a uniform and army material supplier and he says even he have never heard of any armymen awarded any such clasp, though he did mentioned that it can be a navy only clasp but hard luck I am not able to get hold anyone from INDIAN NAVY.

Need your valuable input on naming bit.

Amit

Hello William,

I can't really add much more than what has already been posted here. I was conducting some other related research into the Sainya Seva Medal to the Indian Army and the areas that had been listed as 'special duty' for the purposes of pay, other conditions of service and the award of the clasps. I recall, at that time, coming across a reference to a similar list of Navy 'special duty' areas which included the Lakshwadeep and Minicoy islands amongst other islands. That document referenced service in at least the year 1998 and onwards time frame. That would at least indicate a time where this service may have attracted the form of service recognition of such a clasp. There are other reports from various internet archives which indicate that Indian Navy has had a presence in these island groups since that time in light of the need to increase the security of the Sea Lines Of Communication as well as to thwart piracy and other related events.

Having said all that this clasp is not listed as part of the list of clasps that were awarded to the Indian Army so one could conclude it may be a Navy only clasp. I am aware that at least one other clasp of the Sainya Seva Medal was also awarded only to the Air Force so the precedent is there.

There does appear to be not a lot of information out there on this clasp. Hopefully the longer term collectors of Indian medals will be able to shed some more light on this subject.

Regards,

Rob

Hi Rob,

Is Andaman and Nicobar a air force only clas ?

Regards

Amit

Thanks William

I am also looking for more info on this one, although I have all other clasps for sainya seva medal this was pretty surprising for me i contacted the dealer who sold me this but he also have no idea of this clasp he says he brought a lot from bangalore and this medal was one among the lot.

:rolleyes:

Some more

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_06_2011/post-10846-0-74875200-1307636029.jpgHi,

here are a few pictures of the medal.

@Brian you still know more than what I do about medals, so for me you are a expert.

:cheers:

Hi,

I have updated the pics in web album sorry for poor qaulity of pics (mobile upload).

Will get them scanned and post them later over the weekend.

Archer and RobW thanks a lot for the information.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=amit.vishwakarma82&target=ALBUM&id=5615938113729242657&authkey=Gv1sRgCNSknZOQz-PFoQE&feat=email

Hi,

I have updated the pics in web album sorry for poor qaulity of pics (mobile upload).

Will get them scanned and post them later over the weekend.

Archer and RobW thanks a lot for the information.

:cheers:

Hi All,

I have added this medal in my collection it looks like a tailor copy or a replica (not too sure).

Most unusual is the clasp which is for service in Lakshyadeep and minicoy (लक्ष्यदीप अवम मिनिकॉय), I need help from veteran collectors to check if there is any such medal issued by Ministry of defence or Government of India.

This specimen is named to 175898 H. S. Kumar POR SPL IN (unable to figure out the details of this unit either)

Appreciate any information on this medal

* will add the pictures ASAP

Thanks

Amit

Thanks all for giving insight, However I am still confused why the value of the medal will be reduced by 40% if it is for person who was killed in action as it was in most of the cases.

However I have come across 2 mutiny medals which were pin mounted and indeed it did a great deal of damage.

Does any one have any picture of family member of KIA wearing brooched or pin mounted medal.

Hi,

I found this on internet a couple of days ago it was a auction for MONS Star turned into a brooch.

To my understanding it was a practice followed for mutiny medals way back in 1857.

Although I didn’t win the auction, I would like to know if it’s a common practice followed for causalities of war.

This medal was named to 43383 DVR F PRITCHARD R.F.A.

Thanks

Amit

Hi Brian,

that is a good one.

I am also looking for one if you don/t mind can you please let me know the source (if thats ok) so that i can check if i can get one for me

Thanks

Amit