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Gentlemen, This bar comes from a colonel of colonial artillery. Who could tell me what is the last ribbon ? Thanks Rodion

Thanks a lot Rick ! You bring an important key to understand why he didn't get award during the GPW.

So, what is your feeling gentlemen, the Kliuchko who was awarded an ORB in 1967 could be the same guy, participant in the civil war, in the GPW, but according to the service records never got an order or medal !? What were the rules of attribution of the ORB for the 50th birthday of the revolution ? How many ORB were awarded for this event ? Best regards Rodion

Then he moved to the reserve During the GPW : 1941-1942 : intendant third rank, deputy chief then chief of the 5th section of the 270th infantry division, southern front 1942- 1945 help please for the translation 1950 : senior lieutenant of the admninistrative service He finished the war without award !

In the red army during the civil war from 1919 to 1922 : KursantPlatoon commander in the 53th infantry regimentCompany commanderZAVKHOZKOM ??Deputy battalion commanderBattalion commanderDeputy commander of the 20th turkestan infantry regiment A tipicaly revolutionary career, he had 25 years old !

I received 5 service records but infortunatly no information about this ORB, except the same last name, name and patrionymic. Starting the translation, I discovered an amazing career ! Born in 1897 In the "old" army : from may 1916 to january 1918 starshii unter ofitser (in english senior NCO or warrant officer ?) in the Guard PAVLOSKY regiment !

Hello Gentlemen, A few weeks ago I ordered, a research for an ORB awarded for the 50th birthday of the Revolution ?

Rick, You're right, technical, justice, administrative, medical, veterinary, artillery, infantery officers used ranks of the army and not of the navy. the question is quite complicated and we are waiting for the book about navy uniforms like this one which exists about air force in 3 parts. exceptional work ! Maybe this link will be helpfull : http://www.military-uniform.narod.ru/navy/1951/index.htm It is the regulation of 1951 about navy uniforms which describes all the shoulder boards in use. Rodion

So according to the second plate, your shoulders boards are a navy ingeneer major and the button is silver coloured. Best regards Rodion

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Hello, In the "book of the red sailor" dated 1945, I found interesting plates

Hello From the 'Annuaire national des officiers de r?serve 1931-1932" : LAUTIER (G. E. M.) lieutenant Arm?e de l'Air, , 42 rue de l'Abb? de l'Ep?e ? Marseille. So it was an officer of the Reserve and it's hard to get more if you have not his personnal military papers. Best regards from Paris