Stan

The interesting thing is that I have not until now been able to get any info on Tiekenhenrich, but the date of his award is the same as Stadel's, 3.3.41, so he almost certainly was in the same Kampfgeschwader Greif. Can Francois Saez or anyone else confirm this? Stan

Richard, I am pleased that this thread has been added to recently otherwise I would have missed it as I only joined recently. I too have an Honour Goblet which was awarded to Oberfeldwebel Lothar Tiekenhenrich. I bought it from Adrian Forman some 20 years ago. It is also 835 silver. I am posting a picture with a few other Luft pieces.

Steve, Here's a couple of pictures of my Luft un-qualified air gunners badge by Assman. It is also "DRGM" marked. Stan

Che, You could well be correct. Perhaps that is the reason we see them sewn onto the uniforms. Stan

Che, Here are the photos. Stan

Che, What are the points of difference between the fake and the original Spanish Crosses in Gold with Diamonds that you show? That's a cool Spanish Cross in Gold that you also show. Can you post photos of the reverse on a new thread? Most of these crosses are simply hallmarked with silver content. I've never seen a gold version which was marked 900 "CEJ". Stan

Here's the missing photo!

Here is another shot of the catch which is identical to the catch on Lechner's badge shown in post#65 and Che's post # 91. A pity that it is covered in solder-I will probably get it fixed properly. Stan

Jacques, Herewith a photo of the top part of the badge where the pin might originally have been located. Stan

Jacques, I'll do that in the morning when there is more light. In my opinion, the pins were so poorly affixed on these Portugese made badges that the recipients had them removed and better hardware put on. Forman shows a similar badge in his Vol 3. book that has the pin and catch removed and holes drilled into the top and bottom for sewing the badge onto the uniform for security. I think that my badge originally had a hinge at the top but it was soldered on and therefore easy to remove without trace. You cannot see the catch on my badge too well but it is identical to the one shown earlier and attributed to Lechner. Regards, Stan

I bought my Condor Legion Tank Badge from Adrian Forman in 1992. He describes it as a Portugese manufacture 1st Form. Here are the photos. Note the replacement pin/hinge. The catch is original to badge but has be re-soldered. Stan

Raz, That looks like a really nice Gau East Prussia and no doubt it is made from lightweight material? The worst looking Gau badge in my opinion is the Gau Hannover. Most people think that this badge comes in Bronze, Silver and Gold but I reckon that the only awarded Gau Hannover badge was in Gold with the Bronze version being a "tinnie". My reasoning is because Dr. Doehle only shows the Gold version in his book and the example I have comes with it's citation which does not mention the grade but does show a Gold badge on the cover. Also, the Bronze versions are far too common.I'll post some pics. Stan

And here's Gau Berlin. Stan

Jacques, The first unmarked Spanish Cross without Swords is in my collection, the Meybauer was one which was offered to me a couple of years ago but I didn't buy. Stan

Here are a couple of Gau Thueringen in silver and bronze. The silver is marked "800" on the base. Stan

Dan, The book "Das Goldene Parteiabzeichen" is still in print and is published by Klaus Patzwall. You can email him on patzwall@bdos.de If you have any problems, PM me. Stan

Dan, Yes, it gives the name, rank and membership number of all recipients. If you tell me who you are looking for, I look them up, but there are quite a few for 30.1.43. Stan

Gau Danzig. Stan

Here are a couple from my collection- Gau Wartheland first Stan

Here's another Meybauer from my files, this time without swords. Stan

Thanks for all your responses. It looks as if my piece originally had swords after all which were then cut-off before the eagles were attached. I am posting a couple of pics as requested. On the reverse side you will see that the central disc is not perfectly round as it is on a Spanish Cross in Bronze without Swords, so it probably has had swords removed. I know what Sal is referring to. Under magnification, the top of each swastika appears to be "filled in". I never noticed this before and it is certainly not noticeable to the eye. Anyway, I have enjoyed reading your responses. Stan

I have in my collection a hallmarked Spanish Crosss in Silver without Swords. I have long been of the opinion that these crosses, of which only very few were awarded, were produced without attached swords. I am now wondering if ALL of these crosses were originally produced with swords, and these swords were removed before the eagles were affixed. The reason I am asking this is because many collectors feel that these crosses could have been altered post war to increase their value. What do forum members think?

Sorry Jacques, but this info was not sent to me, only photos. I did not purchase the piece. Stan