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Hi BlackCowBoy, Yes the Brunswick Waterloo medals, I'm looking for an online resource that contains the full medal roll. Like the English Waterloo medal the rolls and other information is digitized and easily available online, I am unable to find any such resource for Brunswick. In 2012 member Nunquam retrorsum stated he had the rolls and they were working on publishing a book but he has gone completely silent despite all the interest shown. I understand I can write for each medal to the state archive, but want access to the full roll for my own research purposes. I have not even found any partial type rolls. thnx

This just popped up on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/114902813427

I've been trying to find if there are rolls for the Brunswick medals. Are these the rolls you are referring to? Where can I find them? Thanks

The ribbons are amazing, especially the blue rose shaped one. Was that custom or also allowed for official wear? I've been hesitant to pick these medals up as I don't know if there are issues with fakes/copies on the market?

I've been fascinated with these medals and see quite a few of the Mexico ones available. How does one tell if they are fakes or real? Or are they even making fakes of these (yet)? thanks

I'll make another post to make up for lost time. My medal #6 is (probably) not Kuchkin but rather a Private issue, note #10 in this link: http://medalirus.ru/georgievskie-kresty/gk-chastnye-vsadnik-5-12.php Question is, who are these private makers and why were they reversing St. George on the front? Was it a mistake or an actual reason (maybe not to confuse with an official award, these were replacement copies or something?).

@JapanX I debated waiting another 6 years before thanking you as well lol. How can I find more information on the Russian soldier Zajaz? I tried using the following two links but he doesn't seem to come up. Fascinating where the 32A was when he earned the 3rd class. https://gwar.mil.ru/heroes/ https://1914.svrt.ru @paul wood I agree, I've had the medals since the early 90s so that helps a bit in terms of progeny (there were less fakes then) and picked up from various dealers at shows in the midwest at that time. What references (books etc) do you recommend to help educate me on real/fake St. George Crosses?

Bringing up my own old thread! Thanks Igor and others for all the info provided before, I still own these medals, and as more info has come out learned a great deal about the Meybauer version. However, I still don't know enough about real St George Crosses to know if #2 and #3 in the pics above is real or fake and would appreciate input from the group.

Awesome info. @Jef thanks for the pic, super helpful! I tried searching for the book you suggested and cannot find one by that title by Guy Deploige, (there are three he has published and none match). Can you suggest where it might be? I did however before you suggested purchased 'The Spirit of Belgium: Orders of Belgium' by Anttii Ruokonen. How do the two works compare?

That link is a start but it's missing some monograms. For instance the medal I have has a monogram that looks similar to the Leopold I but mine has a Roman numeral I in the center of the monogram whereas the Leopold I does not.

On the back of the Belgian medals like the Order of Leopold is the signature/emblam of the reigning monarch, but I'm unable to figure out which monarch used which signature and hence I can't figure out which era the medal is in. (I presume there must be 5-6 eras because that is how many Belgian Monarchs there are, so there must be 5-6 different types of signature...is that right?). Is there a side by side picture chart of the various Belgian monarchs and what that looks like on these medals? Thanks!

Hey Uwe, thanks. I found the link and now understand.

Hi Speedytop, I'm unable to figure out your hints. I've opened up every link for several pages and I'm not finding this website with all the badges. Are you perhaps Schlaraffen?

Thanks again Uwe, this has been incredibly helpful. A cold case mystery is being solved here Can you direct me perhaps to the link and I can try and request to join and gain access to view the other medals and badges?

Hi Uwe, Thanks for helping! I read the entire article, very 'interesting' group on people. I spent some time researching the various keywords and terms, but I'm unable to find any link this medal. It seems this article link is taken from a book but I can't figure out what that book is called. You mention the medal is called, "Verdienstorden 1. Klasse", can you provide a link to this reference as well as it's not in the linked article? thanks again

This one has me stumped. It appears to be of Austrian origin, pre WWI, however it is from the Austrian occupied part of Poland, Krakow (west Galicia). The maker is A. Schwerdt in Stuttgart who was a known maker of medals both officially and unofficially. The writing is in French. is this some order of the Owl? Order of the Grand Orient? Here are some reference points I found that may be relatable: https://www.ebay.ie/itm/STUTTGART-Werbung-1912-Ad-Schwerdt-Metallwaren-Fabrik-/163796555647?hash=item262309177f This is the closest other medal I could find but no information what it means: https://picclick.de/Alter-Orden-Eulen-Kopf-ASCHWERDT-STUTTGART-leicht-Metall-312766371248.html Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Alex, this is very interesting. Any thoughts on where or who issued this?

I believe this is a Russian Orthodox religious or friendship medal commemorating the appointing of the Metropolis in 1649 in Russia. But since I cannot read/write cyrillic I'm stumped as to what it is. There's an American flag in there and looks like a Russian one as well. Anyone can help decipher it? Thanks in advance.

I've been unable to find who issued this or what groups/people received them. I have found one picture of this but in silver online but with no information. This is all I could find but it doesn't say much: https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/38546.html Anyone have some info on this? Thanks in advance.

I've noted the screwed in flames has been mentioned in this thread before but I am unable to find any pictures of how to tell the difference between screwed in and non screwed in. Using the side pic of mine, how does one tell the difference?

Ok, now I understand. You would know the the medal class based on unit position then rank. In the military this is not so much a problem to remember as they beat the ranks into you during initial training so you will always remember. Is my assessment correct then that this is a Lesser, possibly 1917 or later model? (I'm basing it on the Lion not being gold but rather gilt).

Cześć! I was able to translate it and determined it's possibly Italian as you've noted but I've searched this translation and was not able to come up with anything, either using the Italian or English version. thanks

Hi Laurentius, So how would one know, back in the day, when coming up on an officer what he was awarded? For instance, imagine a bunch of officers standing around having a chat in dress uniform, one would not walk up and eyeball how the flames are screwed in to see if this gent was awarded a 3rd or 4th class. Is there any other way to identify this? Seems incredibly complicated to understand even if one was in the Bavarian Army lol. thanks!

Hello, I've had this for years and could never figure out what for (and now how I even got it lol). It's blue enamel, and the inscription is: "guardate alto edificatevi" which I believe is Italian and not Latin. There are no other markings on the medal, and does not appear to be silver. Probably some kind of Catholic religious thing. If there's another forum or website that can be recommended to look I'd appreciate any advise. Thanks

I'd like to showcase this MVO I've had for many years. After reading this thread, I believe it is a Leser, 1917 era. It has 950 on the cross body, and 900 on the swords and ribbon ring. However, I am still unable to figure out what makes a 3rd class vs. 4th class. I see 3rd class medals with the same 950/900 markings on them. Would the collective experts be so kind as to help me out?