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Happened across these, thought they were interesting. Not of any particular value. Initially it was suggested, that they were tokens given to staff at the values Guinness Breweries, in order to exchange for stout at the end of a shift or indeed during a shift. However I now don’t believe this to be the case. They appear to be some sort of promotional item. I am curious, to learn, exactly when/where they were in circulation. Anyone able to shine any light on them?

Nottinghamshire Police Warrant Card badge. Greater Manchester Police Warrant Card Badge.

Thought this might be of further interest?

I was thinking that perhaps with the Nuclear Vets Medal being referred to as a “commemorative” medal, that it might differ from others? But with the unveiling of the Humanitarian Medal, and it having exactly the same effigy, it would appear not to be the case. No additional information, is available with regards, to when we can expect to start seeing previously established medals, being the new effigy. Will be interesting to see if all effigies are now the same, or whether there will be crowned and uncrowned versions as previously awarded…??

Other than facing to the left, I wasn’t too far of the mark, in the end 👍😂

Now that the Nuclear Veteran’s medal has been formally unveiled (appearing to confirm what the new effigy, will finally look like), I thought I’d take the opportunity to have a little tinker….

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-medal-design-unveiled-to-honour-veterans-of-britains-nuclear-tests#:~:text=The qualifying period for the,sent to next of kin.

Nuclear Veterans Medal released. Interesting that C111R is facing the same way as E11R.

Yes indeed, but what I think is particularly curious. Is the fact that it doesn’t appear that it is intended to be back dated for anything specific. Like Covid, Grenfell or the recent earthquakes in Turkey for example. So does this make it the first British medal to be created for an event that hasn’t yet come to pass?

😂😂👍👍👍 No one seems to be able to account, for why it is taking so long or indeed when it will be confirmed! All I can say, is the backlog must now be considerable and growing bigger by the day!!

Assume this will be the first medal, to solely bear the King’s effigy? Interesting that it doesn’t include Covid?

Another new medal - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-humanitarian-medal/the-humanitarian-medal-command-paper

Not the best image granted. Hope to find a better one soon!!

Here’s another 👍

First examples, have been presented. https://twitter.com/UKdefUS/status/1681683630249107457

Apparently, the new clasp Global Operations is now available, on miniature medal anyway. Unaware of any formal criteria, but a point of note is the continued use of the Queen’s effigy.

MOD website, says this. Re the design, the saga re which effigy is to be used, still rumbles on some 10 months after the Queen’s passing. New Border Force LSGC has also been knocked back till early next year for the same reason, I understand.

Thought this might be of interest? Cadet Forces LSGC Medal awarded 31st May 2023. Recipient having qualified on the 29th November 2022.

Confirmation received that the, MOD are still yet to begin producing any King’s effigy medals. Apparently there is already a backlog of 1500 VRSM’s. I would suspect that the regular services, must be in a similar situation by now, if not worse?

Can anyone recommend any books on this subject? I’ve scoured the internet, but have been unable to find any books, covering this period? Have any books on the subject, even ever been written……..

Thought this chap’s story might be of interest? George PAYNE Born - Marylebone London Attested into the 90th Regiment, Westminister 13th October 1854 aged 17 years 6 months. Regimental number 3590 Trade - shoemaker Height 5` 6" Complexion Fresh Eyes Blue Hair Brown Intended address upon discharge 8 Archbishop Place, Somers Road, Brixton, London. Trade shoemaker. Discharged Colchester as 1520 Private 96th Regiment aged 39 years and one month on the 14th May 1875. Served 21 years and 17 days of which 15 years 5 months overseas - Malta 2 months Crimea 10 months India 14 years 5 months Conduct described as very good, he had four good conduct badges Had 5 entries in the regimental defaults book and was tried by court martial once. Has the Indian Mutiny medal with clasp Defence of Lucknow. Statement of service - Attested as Private 90th Regt - 13th October 1854 to 12th April 1855 Private- 13th April 1854 to 12th April 1855 Absent 27th April to 2nd May 1856. Tried by Regimental Court Martial 5th May 1856 and sentenced to 28 days. Imprisoned 5th May to 11th May. Remainder of sentence commuted, in conscience of youth and previous good conduct and for having kept safe the medal and clasp of a driver of the Royal Artillery. (It is also documented that on the 20th September 1855 the 90th presented 10 medals to each company, perhaps the Artillery did the same and that this medal "kept safe" was one of those? There is no way of knowing the exact dates PAYNE served on the Crimea (but we know he served there for 10 months and the Regiment left in June 1856. I'm also aware of a draft of 54 men who joined the Regt on 3rd October 1855, as PAYNE didn't qualify for the Crimea Medal which had a cut off date of the 9th September 1855, I suspect he was one of these 54). This would suggest he was on Malta August/September time? The following passage might shine some light on his court martial. In the beginning of April 1856, peace was proclaimed and soldiers of the allied and Russian armies fraternized cordially, visiting each other's camps and meeting at the races and other entertainments which were set on foot. General LUDERS the Russian Commander in Chief inspected the whole British army on the 17th after which preparations were made for the evacuation of the Crimea. In June the 90th 27 officers and 757 non commissioned officers and men embarked on board HMS Queen which was towed by the Terrible as far as Constantinople whence she proceeded under sail for England. The regiment landed in Portsmouth in the end of July. Private 12th May 1856 to 5th Sept 1865 Transferred to the 96th Regiment 1st August 1869 Regimental number 1520. Private 1st August 1869 to 14th May 1875 The 90th embarked for India in February 1857 to help suppress the Indian Rebellion.It took part in the relief of Lucknow in November 1857, an action which saw members of the regiment awarded six Victoria Crosses. The regiment embarked for home in September 1869. As PAYNE transfers to the 96th in August 1869, this would suggest that he wanted to remain in India, hence his change in Regiment. The 96th remained in India until 1875. Provenance: Spink & Son Ltd, London Medal Auctioneer & Dealer, 31st March, 1993.

Interesting concept. Necessity would suggest that, clasps qualified for after the 8th September 2022, will have a King’s crown on? Will certainly be interesting to see what happens…. Although not technically a change of crown. Thought this example might be of interest?