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Thanks Odin, that's very interesting. I wonder why they bothered having them and not just have them as a normal officer? Just out of further curiosity how did they progress during WW2? If an officer had retired with the rank of Insp, would they have served as an Insp (reserve) during WW2? Would they have gone back to their old division? Is there any records for reserve officer postings during the war?

Ladies/Gents, Can anyone shine any light on the role of a Metropolitan police reserve officer in Edwardian period? Where they like a modern day special constable? I know the chap I'm interested in joined up in 1890 (would he have joined as a reserve?), certainly by 1906 he was listed as a reserve, finally retiring in 1917.

Nice that the "gap" in the information about J HUGHES can be beyond reasonable doubt ascertained as this chap. I would further offer that I have the entire nominal roll for Caernarfon Constabulary in September 1950. J HUGHES appears in the list of names under Supt O G EAMES and Insps I EVANS & Ll ROBERTS (assume this to be Llewelyn). If any of these senior Officers can be narrowed down to a particular area or even station this will give us an idea as to which station John HUGHES was based at.............?

The chap I'm looking at was allowed to resign in 1893 from C Division (Met).

Thanks guys. I had a suspicion that this might be the case. I'd be curious to know of any examples that research has uncovered with regards to police officers being allowed to resign. I would have thought that most cases would be pretty straight forward like being drunk on duty for instance.

Can anyone tell me what permitted to resign means?

Anyone help me out with this one? Can't find seem to find him... 1897 Jubilee medal to PC J.GARIN E.DIVISION.

Has anyone ever come across an example of a medal named to an none H Division officer, but who was involved in an incident whereby he gave evidence with his parent Divisional details at court for an incident that took place within H Division, so it can be assumed that he must have been drafted into H Division for the anti-Jack patrols. I don't know if such an example exists, but surely with the "hundreds" of officers drafted in (PC Frederick WENSLEY L Division is an example), surely one of them must have made an arrest for something that ended up in a court hearing? I have been searching for sometime now but haven't turned anything up yet. I am mainly basing my search on Old Bailey trials. But perhaps the press reports on local court hearings might also be a source? Has anyone ever come across an example or have one in their collections perhaps, I would very much like to hear from anyone who can offer an example.

Dave, that's interesting so Mr ROWLEY was awarded his LSGC as the Chief of Surrey. Going back to Welsh examples, I will keep ob's and see what the highest rank in Welsh naming I can find. If anyone else can assist, I for one would be very interested.

Here is an example of a RHINGYLL (Sgt), you will note that the style of naming was stamp engraved as apposed to laser engraved. Which would suggest that this example was issued sometime ago? So it would appear that perhaps Welsh named medals have in fact been around for sometime.....

Where is Op LEEWAY?

First 46 2008 GSM's issued............... https://www.gov.uk/government/news/defence-secretary-awards-new-medal-to-46-troops I assume this will go along with the previous GSM, whereby one with medal multiple clasps as apposed to the OSM whereby multiple medals awarded, to a single serviceman/women.

CWNST

Dave, mission accomplished! Here we have it.............

Kevin, unfortunately I don't have these pocket notes books any more. I can't even remember what I did with them (it was 12 years ago). I must have swapped them for something else, am really sorry I can't shine any more light on this for you .

I have spoken with someone within HR and was informed that you can have your medal engraved in Welsh and it seems that loads of officers have chosen to have their medals engraved with such, so it appears there are examples out there, keep your eyes peeled!!!!

Nice group!!! Nice price as well mind ....

What a cracking group!!!!!! This group is a particular favourite of mine. No idea whether it still exists, but the fact that it did at one time, I think is brilliant.

Have you by chance got the son's medals or know what he was entitled to? I'm looking to try and ascertain medal groups to bobbies that had the 1911 coronation medal and the WW2 defence medal (for police service). Particularly pairs like Percy may have had, whereby he had unbroken police service from being awarded the 1911 medal and being awarded the defence medal.

The more I look into this the more I'm inclined to agree with you Paul. I think there's more chance of a bobby having the 1911 medal and a WW2 defence medal, than a Crimea & 1887 medal.

Would be interesting if such a group could be identified. I was thinking perhaps of a chap who was a drummer boy aged 15 or so, leaves the army aged 20 or so in 1860, 27 years later (he's still only in his late 40's) gets the 1887 medal?

Ladies/Gents, Just out of interest does anyone know whether such a medal group exists?

That I suppose would mean designing & minting an entirely new medal, I can't see them doing that, although it is an interesting concept. But I assume just changing the ranking would be pretty straight forward?

Paul, duly noted. HOWEVER how many of these other locations have an act of parliament which makes it law to have things bilingually? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Language_Act_1993