Claudio

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Bayerischer MVO 3. Kl. in Gold, obverse:

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Braunschweig, Orden vom Heinrich des L?wen, Ritterkreuz 1. Klasse in Gold, obverse:

Herr Zeige also very generously provided me with the exact weight of the above mentioned orders. I compared them with Nimmergut's info taken from his 4 books "Deutsche Orden & Ehrenzeichen". This is the result. I am glad to hear your opinion... As you can see, some data vary very much some other data is quite identical (-/+ 1 or 2 grams). I am quite desperate to get some information or comments on these, because, like Tim said, there is no detailled reference book where these orders are studied in all aspects (style, manufacture, weights, materials, different juwellers, ect.). I am very eager to learn more about them. Ciao, Claudio

Yes, Tim, Zeige sent me some additional very big photos... Too bad that the pictures always come out with too much flash or over-exposed. Better would be to scan such medals. No comments on the other medals?? Here a WMVO for your opinion... Ciao, Claudio

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Baden, MKFO

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Reuss, Ehrenkreuz 2. Kl. in Gold??? It looks like... reverse:

reverse.. another time... this is driving me crazy... the space limitations are really a turn off to post pictures!

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Hi Stogie, I thought the same. And what about the medallion on the back upside-down? Here other stuff from Zeige... A Griffin Order RK 1. Kl.:

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And what about this AO Offizierskreuz in Gold? Obverse:

And what about this MVO?

Dear enthusiast collectors: Herewith I am posting some better pictures... I would like to hear from you! Front & Reverse... I must say that I don't like too much the red fabric on the back... What are your opinions? Ciao, Claudio

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Hi guys! I didn't even notice but my brothers had these also in his miniature collection. Ciao, Claudio Front:

Good eyes Wild Card Thank you! Ciao, Claudio

To illustrate what Rick said. I feel a bit stupid to ask but what is the Second decoration after Iron Cross: a HHOX or a RAO3KrX? I can't really tell from the picture. The RAO would really strange and to me quite unlikely, since Gen. F?rster was during the war a mere junior officer. Ciao, Claudio

Hi Red, The first class 1939 clasp would have been worn, like the KVK (War Merit Cross) 1. Kl., on the pocket. There was no ribbon for the 1st classes decorations. Since you couldn't have been awarded the 1st class without having being awarded with the 2nd classes, he surely got also the 2nd classes of the KVK and the EK on his ribbon bar or first button hole of an open collar LW tunic. The ribbon bar could have looked like the example here below. Ciao, Claudio

You can also see the difference on the back: the non-combattant does only have the dates inscription and the combattant one has a steel helmet on it. Very nice... I saw once a single court mounted Hungarian non-combattant WWI commemorative medal with the label Godet on the back and document to go with on Ebay. Now I regret not to have bidden more at that time. Ciao, Claudio

Ribbon bar update with the Bew?hrungsabzeichen (2nd award of the KVK). Ciao, Claudio

No swords on the medal itself depicted... very rare indeed... I was about to post the answer, but you were too quick to give it away! Very nice... already the combination with a real NC IC 2nd class (only 13'000 awarded in WWI) is quite scarce... almost like a RK 1939 (7800 awarded). But I guess such a Hungarian WWI commemoration medal for Non Combattant is much less sexy than other much more prised WWII German badges, which are more common but command an higher price. Ciao, Claudio See below to better illustrate the difference between a combattant medal from a non-combattant medal.