Bayern

On 23/3/2011 at 18:08, Kev in Deva said:

18th March 2011 Visit:-

 

 

A Czechoslovakian Award, (identification forthcoming.)

 

Kevin in Deva.

Slovakian award ,not Czechoslovakian .

 The pommel is not French type , the hilt is rare , its like the one of the Polish Navy officers sword 1927 pattern . Solingen various manufacturers provided swords , sabres and bayonets to many countries , in South America and the Balkans , Spain too .

Magnificent , what a lot of uniforms in nearly new condition . The last time i was in Bavaria in 1993, dont went to the Armeemuseum .

Thanks , A bit more of knowledge for me 

Paja: each day one learns something new ,i ignored until now that Franchet D Esperey was honoured as  Voivoda , Title that was something more if I am not wrong, than a mere military honour , 

ccj : The last shoulderboards you have showed are of the first Fliegerbataillon , the officers ones for a Major, note the mouse grey backing and the white inner piping 

Very very interesting Paja , thanks . I discovered the name of the Argentinian Attache , Vedia , might be the later General Agustin de Vedia .The Austrian , Herberstein , Count Herberstein was later ,General and Chief of the Militarkbinett or something similar of Archduke Friedrich , the Commander in chief of the Austro Hungarian forces during ww1 until 1917 when he was replaced by his cousin Archduke Joseph . Herberstein was a mix of soldier and courtier . Petar Bojovic if i am not wrong ,later became one of the most succesfulls Voivodas of the Serbian Army .

14 hours ago, Trooper_D said:

Bayern

Thank you for your astute observation about the geopolitical problems of having officers from so many nations, some of whom shared an antipathy - which, as in the case of Japan and Russia, might well be out in the open. You may know that at the end of each day of the Grandes Manoeuvres, the French military authorities laid on lavish dinners for the military attaches. I would imagine that preparing the table plan was a diplomatic nightmare for the reasons you state!

My pleasure , yes , a delicate affaire de etiquette , complicated more with the other theme , the precedence ,based in the seniority of the the attaches in the appointment 

Trooper : Thanks , and in your last post is another pair of points to note , one the presence for the first time of the German attache . the other the contrast between the warm attitude with Russia and the hardly correct with Japan and Great Britain . Well ,Japan was besieging Port Arthur , in the hands of France ally , Russia . respct to Great Britain , Fachoda was not so far in the time 

Prosit 

The captains assisted one year to became Chef D escadron , the lieutenants to became chef de section ,

Interesting , very curious the mongolian boots of the chinese officer , the Argentine and the Bolivian attaches are still wearing full French type uniforms , the Chilean is nearly Prussian , not full yet .

Hello : Its a curious tunic . coarse wool cloth , the litzen ,are not of quality , altough are officers type . In 1915 the litzen for Engineers as for the doctors were weared with the bluse , with the Kunftige Friedensuniform they weared larger litze braided .the pre war Flugbataillons weared the technical troops uniform .with white buttons and collar litzen, the officers shoulderboards have grey backing and a interior piping white , red , yellow or light blue according with the numeration .

The Prussian : Im sorry , here in Argentina, is not so expensive .

Good Luck . 

The Prussian : Find a friend with a complete binoculars , then a dentist technician to make an acrylic or resin copy of the rings . 

Hello : To my limited knowledge its a French one , napoleonic , of line cavalry , Dragoons . If is long , heavy and straight could be of cuirassiers , 

My pleasure , but kept in mind that i only gave you a guideline . you must advance more . 

Trooper : to me they are foreign Armies officers studying in Saumur . they are subaltern officers In the second photo are two British officers one a lancer the other of the RHA, one Dutch , a hussar ,A Serbian of cavalry , All the officers are of mounted branchs . 

Paja ; You are Right , in the ampliation appears clearly that the cap has two cockades and the braided shoulderboards . perhaps the officer is Norwegian . 

7 hours ago, paja said:

Interesting photos found on Gallica.

Paja : from left to right : A Romanian pellise , a Swiss officer , another swiss , a French ,a Bulgarian , a Japanese ,a Chilean , a Italian staff officer , a German ,and the Serbian 

If your musket is dated 1828 probably is a prussian 1809 musket converted from flint to percussion in 1828 .the letters KFG R could mean Kaiser Franz Grenadier Regiment , the name between 1814 and 1820 of the then Kaiser Franz Garde Grenadier Regiment Number 2

In the site http marksrussianmilitaryhistory. info  exists a better photo of the attaches . dated 1913 . 

Yes , indeed . and the ground into forests tended to be wet .But the Germans used to like very much the western books of Karl May (1842 1912 ) and admired the Old Shatterhand and his friend the Winnetou chief.generations grew familiarized with explorers and indians reigning in the woods and mountains . as the fish in the pond , quietly , almost furtively , chasing game or hunters . the sole of the boots is very like that of a indian mocassin . The Maymania of the Germans was extended . Hitler yes , was a fan of Karl May . is recorded that during High Command sessions the Fuhrer recomended to his officers the lecture of Karl May with the goal of learn tactics.

The Prussian : They are hard to find pieces , because were made of baquelite were prone to break .