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It seems I opened Pandor's Box , never my intention. If I understand correctly Weiss & Co was only in the business of manufacturing 4th class MVO during the Great War & without swds gold center. Let us hope there are only a few isolated instances that MVO's have been tampered .

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Hello Gentlemen Picked this one up a while back, was always curious about this one. Ferdinand issued a few merit medals with his bust at different stages of his life. My question is does anyone know when this medal was issued?

I forget to mention medal comes in several grades with & without crown. I've only seen one real gold one probably belonged to Ferdinand l or another monarch.

Czar Ferdinand created a wedding medal for the happy occasion which depicts couple on obverse & both crests on reverse.

Hard to imagine Weiss & Co only manufactured MVO 4th class with swords only. Surely some recipients received the order without swords during the Great War.

Hope this one is OK Thanks Yankee

I don't understand " shape looks IMHO ", this one designed by Weiss. Perhaps each jeweler had their own style of scroll form. I'll try to make larger

Bravo Andreas Glade that baby has a nice home That foto puts a happy face on the bar All the best Yankee

Hi Great Dane Awesome bar , your man was all over the place. Who was the recipient & the history if you have available. Thanks Yankee

Hello Gentlemen Picture from old collection, can anybody help identify the recipient of this bar. Bulgarian Order St. Alexander w/swds on ring knight 1st type German make 1879 Coronation medal ( 51 awarded ) Russia Alexander lll Zeal medal on St. Stanislaus ribbon 1866 Bavaria War Cross Prussia 1870 War Medal for Combattants Roumanian Faithful Service Medal ( 1st type ) Serbia Zealous Sevice 1877-78 War Turkish Order Medjidie 5th Class Perhaps a soldier of fortune who fought in 4 foreign armies and later became a bodyguard or aide to Alexander l during State Visits to receive other medals. Any info would be fascinating to know. Sincerely Yankee

Hi Schie Like how the Bavarians mark everything, I can assume the other Bavarian jewelers did the same. To collect all MVO would be a lifetime task. Glade to have right case. Many thanks Sincerely Yankee

Thanks Stogieman for your thoughts, always great to hear that a order has not been tamper with. Saw a Knight 2nd class in gold ( 1866 - 1905 ) where the swds had been removed for there was a small dark square opening in the scroll work . Very sad for someone to do that ouchhhhhhhhhh. I too noticed a " wobble " MVO w/swds and I thought it was only an extreme exception that the swds were loose. I see now that it is the norm. Thanks for all the info. Sincerely Yankee

Hi Schie Was most curious to know this, saw another MVO 4th class w/swds, however at the time did not think to look behind blades. The cases were all marked the same, never crossed swds pictured? Thanks Yankee

Hi Bernd Thanks for that, perhaps I'll have a bit of luck to find the other makers in the 4th class & make a family. I always find slight differences in jewelers making the same order. 3rd class forget it, don't see too many of them floating around or I need to be living in Bavaria.... Sincerely Yankee

Thanks for explaining & those illustrations, neat to learn something new and exciting Sincerely Yankee

Did not know there was a protocol in the placing of orders & medals on a bar if all the medals & orders were from the same State. Is that with all the German States or only Prussia? Please excuse if the question seems a bit naive. Thanks Yankee

Hi Rick On the reverse scrollwork there is the WC 950 mark. If MVO awarded with swds would it be double marked once on the swds and again on scrollwork? Unfortunately my scrollwork is slightly bent upwards which is odd. Thanks for your kind help. Sincerely Yankee