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Cambridgeshire have been wearing similar garb for a year or two now, non - flame retardent boil in the bag shirts but the argument is that they're always worn under protective vests or other garments so they don't need to be retardent . Cambs PCSOs wear blue shirts instead of black, apparently there was some argument put up by the PCSOs that they should wear black, presumably a reluctance to recognise the distinction between police officers and not police officers. Cambs also adopted the wearing of names as well as numbers on shoulderstraps, presumably a reluctance to recognise the distinction between police officers and supermarket checkout staff. But I won't get on my soap box again about that one again.

Ooops, a rather glaring mistake - post corrected.

Photo of this badge shown as 113A SAS wings in "British Army Proficiency Badges" by "Edwards & Langley", who also mention an anodised version.

Figures from Cunliffe's painting appear in the Osprey "Victoria's Highlanders", the Sergeant Major & a Private I think. The Sgt Mjr wears the red over white, the Pte the white pom-pom, I don't think that there was any mention of company variations in the text, just to the colours worn by the figures. The original photo that started off this thread - anybody think that there's a chance that the white over red plumes may be white plumes inserted behind a form of patch? It looks unlikely, but you never know. Could it be simply an unnofficial reversion to white over red plumes for staff or officers at a safe distance from authority?

Here's a link to another thread about these medals, started a few years ago: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/8065-8th-army-medal-for-entrance-to-italy/page__p__137789__hl__%2B8th+%2Barmy+%2Bnaples__fromsearch__1#entry137789

Here's the copy of the letter I mentioned to you Merv, refering to the estimate for repair of 1st Bn Rhodesian African Rifles Colours in 1993. The estimate was obtained through "The South Wales Borderers & Monmouthshire Regimental Museum of The Royal Regiment of Wales". The letter was published in The Rhodesian Army Association's "Lion & Tusk" magazine, Volume 4, No. 3, of March 1993. At that time efforts were to be made to finance the conservation of these Colours, which were presented by HM Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother in July 1953, I don't know if those efforts were successful.

Highland regiments other than The Black Watch adopted white plumes in 1829. Around 1840 the ORs of the 74th were wearing white pom-poms in the shako whilst officers wore white over red. In 1846 the 74th resumed the title of "Highlanders" & adopted trews, plaid etc & the plaid cap replaced the shako. Any chance that the officers of the 74th would have carried on the white over red pom-pom as a white over red plume? Is the use of white over red simply a form of "carry over" from the use of the combination by line companies of infantry regiments? And having just looked at the photo in question, is it possibly showing a small white plume projecting above a form of cloth patch on the side of the helmet? Just a thought, although it does'nt look that likely). Stuart?

Finally got around to picking up one of the "large" (about 14cm x 11cm) badges today, see what it's like when it arrives........ ......and here it is, the following morning.

The soldiers wearing a white over red hackle - Highland Light Infantry rather than Gordon Higthlanders? The 2nd Bn HLI wore red over white until disbanded circa 1948, whereupon the 1st Bn HLI replaced their green hackle with white over red?

Very interesting posts from amunastra, full of information & told in a straightforward way rather than with words chosen carefully for dramatic effect - his descriptions of events he was involved in are dramatic enough and it's great to have them in an original form. This website has a number of ITN news bulletins concerning Aden in 1967 (clips they can be viewed free although they are for sale at £299 a time). The 1st Bn. Royal Northumberland Fusiliers feature in some of them. There are more clips, search on "Aden", "Aden 1967" etc. http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist/BHC_ITN/1967/03/08/X08036701/?s=* ITN Reporting 67: Aden Terrorism: British Troops Story:Report outlines the political background to the violence in Aden and shows how conditions for British soldiers and their families are becoming increasingly dangerous. 'Reporting 67' was a series of documentary reports from around the world, produced by ITN News and broadcast on ITV during 1967. Black and White B/W material. Clip No. 1 ADEN: British Forces Broadcasting Service announcer in radio studio reads 'Security Bulletin Number 10' announcement about military events in Aden SOT/ British Forces Broadcasting Service sign on building exterior and vehicle/ British soldier guarding fenced compound of British Forces Broadcasting Service radio station British troops (wearing gas masks) confront chanting crowd of nationalists in street - crowds disperse as troops fire gas cannisters at demonstrators (Front for the Liberation of Occupied South Yemen - FLOSY)/ demonstrators carry large photograph of FLOSY leader Abdul Mackawee/ crowds carry coffin through streets (funeral of one of Mackawee's sons, murdered by rival nationalist group)/ Rival Nationalist and FLOSY supporters clash in street - crowd beat dead body with sticks Clip No. 2 AIR VIEW - AERIAL Aden skyline with mountains in distance/ GRAPHIC showing map of Aden/ AIR VIEW oil refinery/ various of BP oil refinery - BP sign on perimeter fence People in Crater City street listening to transistor radio broadcasting from Yemen/ graffiti on road - 'Death For Britishers', 'Go Back to Your Country'/ British troops (Royal Northumberland Fusiliers) patrolling on streets/ British troops seaching men in back street/ British troops along in tanks past South Arbaian League headquarters building (taken over by British forces after internal fighting) Clip No. 3 Major Paddy Baxter (Royal Northumberland Fusiliers Commanding Officer) interview SOT - CUTAWAYS of British Troops watching streets from rooftops Clip No. 4 Children of British servicemen boarding school bus (guarded by British soldiers)/ various of school bus along with armed military police escort - British schoolchildren on bus as along/ schoolchildren off buses and into school/ Schoolteacher instructing class of British schoolchildren that they must not pick up anything in street British soldiers patrolling on main street ('Malar Strait' - where two Britih women killed in bomb explosion the previous week)/ British forces families and children stand on balconies of their apartments looking into street/ local NAAFI grocery shop - 'wanted for murder' sign and photograph on door of bombing suspect Clip No. 5 People shopping in NAAFI grocery store/ NAAFI Manager interview SOT - discusses recent violence/ Vox pops - British soldiers' wives British servicemen and their families sunbathing and playing on beach - beach surrounded by barbed wire fencing and patrolled by armed soldiers Clip No. 6 Flosy graffiti on walls in street/ National Liberation Front (NLF) graffiti on wall Ali Aswadi (Aden TUC President) interview SOT Clip No 7 Said Sobi (Minister in former Abdul Mackawee government) interview SOT Grave of Eileen Ruth Wilkes (wife of British intelligence officer killed in bomb explosion) in Silent Valley cemetery/ various of British graves in Silent Valley Cemetery/ Union Jack flying from cemetery falgpole British Forces Broadcasting Service announcer in radio studio reads announcement about military events in Aden SOT British soldiers on patrol in Aden streets/ soldiers searching local people/ Armed forces apartments/ soldiers on patrol in military jeep More clips here: http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//BHC_ITN/1966/08/31/X31086601/?s=aden&st=0&pn=1 A clip of RNF patrols: http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1967/02/13/FS130267007/?s=aden+1967&st=0&pn=1

Not many of those hats around Badger - maintaining links with the old county via the old boys & girls network then?

Late at night here & no references to hand, but was'nt the qualification for The Defence Medal 3 years - shorter in some circumstances? (My father qualified although, I think, he did'nt join the army until 1942 & did'nt serve abroad until June 1944).

The reverse:

Promoting the product rather than the regiment, but "Red Hackle" Scotch Whiskey taps into patriotism & pride in a famous regiment - The Black Watch. A beermat from the 1970's.

An interesting beermat, The West Yorkshire Regiment (The Prince of Wales's Own) & The East Yorkshire Regiment (The Duke of York's Own) were amalgamated on 25/4/1958 to form The Prince of Wales's Own Regiment of Yorkshire. The West Yorks had been the old 14th Foot & The East Yorks had been The 15th Foot. The cap badge of the Prince of Wales's Own Regiment of Yorkshire was based on that of The West Yorks, The white horse of Hanover, just removing the regiment's name scroll from the badge & adding the word "YORKSHIRE" to the ground beneath the horse's hooves. The regiment upon amalgamation however was required to wear the crowned rose over "Yorkshire" scroll badge of The Yorkshire Brigade, & was'nt able to wear it's own regimental cap badge until the Brigade was disbanded about 1968. The badge of The East Yorks had been a star containing a rose within a laurel wreath & with a name scroll beneath. The cap badge shown on this beermat shows the design of The East Yorks cap badge but with the new regimental title on the scroll below. I'm having a senior moment & can't remember whether this portrayal of the badge based on that of The East Yorks has any basis in fact - if it was worn as a collar badge during the days of the Brigade system, or as a TA insignia, or if it's just wishful thinking by The East Yorks that their star, rose & wreath would form the basis of the new regiment's badge & not the West York's white horse. The Prince of Wales's Own Regiment of Yorkshire amalgamated on 6/6/2006 with the two regiments above, The Green Howards & The Dukes, & formed the 1st Bn. of the new Yorkshire Regiment.

Interesting medals, a subject I know nothing about & could do with some education on.

Hello Jim, nice to see you around, I sent Narinder scans of the photos he asked for & asked him to post his album here, as yet he has'nt, so I'll post the photos. Graham sounds the man to answer your questions.......

"Old Nosey", The Duke of Wellington, on the front of the beermat, the regimental cap badge, based on his crest, on the back.

In 1782 the Regiment's title was changed to 33rd (or 1st Yorkshire West Riding) Regiment, thus formalising an association with the West Riding of Yorkshire which, even then, had been long established In 1793 Arthur Wellesley, (later the 1st Duke of Wellington) joined the 33rd Foot, commanding it until 1803. From 1806 until 1813 he was Colonel. The 33rd Foot fought under his command at Waterloo in 1815 The Duke died in 1852 & in 1853 the 33rd were granted the title of "The Duke of Wellingtons Regiment". In 1782 the 33rd had been formally linked with the West Riding of Yorkshire, recognising its long established practise of recruiting men from that area. In 1787 The 76th Foot had been raised & in 1881 the 33rd & the 76th were amalgamated to form the 1st & 2nd Battalions of The Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment). The title was later changed to The Duke of Wellington's Regiment (West Riding). In 1873 the two regiments had been "brigaded" together under a system which paired regiments with a sheared depot, in the case of The 33rd & The 76th this was at Halifax. There was great local opposition to the depot being established at Highroad Well, but the depot was established there & remained until 1959. In 1948 the 1st and 2nd Battalions of "The Dukes" were amalgamated & reduced to The 1st Bn, & on 6/6/2006 the regiment was amalgamated with The Prince of Wales's Own Regiment of Yorkshire (14th/15th Foot) & The Green Howards (Alexandra, Princess of Wales's Own Yorkshire Regiment) (19th Foot), to form The Yorkshire Regiment, The Dukes forming the 3rd Bn. of the new regiment.I'm guessing about 1960's for this beermat?

The badges on the shirt have been shown in a recent post, here are the Australian police short & long sleeved shirts as worn in UNMISET (East Timor) 2003 -04.

Interesting stuff, I saw a tv news item on the release of these photos yeterday, about 10,000 all told apparently.

Yes, silks of various sizes, some had to be folded a couple of times to fit packs.

Royal Highlanders of Canada:

Silk cigarette cards, botom left - Officer,72nd Regt. Seaforth Highlanders of Canada, Vancouver:

Seaforth Highlanders: