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Pre war most training facilitates were civilian. Most of the military personal was trained in civilian facilities. The first step of an military pilot training was the pilot licence of the FAI then a further military training. Regards Alex

I checked my archive and I don't have a document like this. I'm not sure if this is a original document. Can we see the badge that came with this document? Regards Alex

picture of an navy officer with observer badge.

@Chris Of course were there prewar documents for qualified pilots and for the pilot badge. Prewar there were awards document and during the war there were more preliminary documents. @Poulton It seems this document was directly hand out from KoGenLuft and it has no Unit stamp and sign. This is unussual and i have to check if i ever seen a document like this. Why at this time the Unit is still called FFA 7 it is unknown. Regards Alex

@Chris Of course were there prewar documents for qualified pilots and for the pilot badge. @Poulton It seems this document was directly Hand out from KoGenLuft and it has no

Here some example of documents for the pilot badge.

It is impossible to say something because the pictures are much to small. Sorry. The FFA 7 was formed as many units at outbreak of war on Aug. 1914. The first commander was Hptm Grade. The unit was renamed to FA 7 on 11.01.1917. FFA 7 / FA 7 was not a bavarian unit. There was another FFA 7b which was a bavarian formation. It is not unussual to find the old name of the unit on a document dated after the rename. How is the name of the pilot? Regards Alex

The last navy aviation badge introduced 1916. The commemorative badge.

Licence of ObFlMst Erich Kästner from KES Putzig. Kästner was flight instructor at KES Putzig during 1918 until EOW.

i present here a vary rare flight book of the LFA pilot Flugzeugobermatrose Bommer. It contains more then 130 flights during his pilot training at LFA Johannisthal and later his fighter training at Kampf-Einsitzer-Schule Langfuhr. Hi flow different land planes including Fok. D.VII, Pfalz D.XII and other fighter airplanes. It is the only flight book i know of an LFA pilot.

Interesting piece but i have no idea what it is. Sorry. Regards Alex

Thank for your contribution, Fergus. Vary nice piece of history. L 30 was from 03.05.17 -17.11.17 at the Seerappen airship base. Wich is close to Königsberg were the army observer school was located. Maybe the navy officers come over to the army guys for spending some time together, share experiences and drink some beer :-) On one of this occasion or at the end of a courses they brought this gift. Regards Alex

cap tally af 2.See-Flieger-Abteilung.

The patch of an Flugmechanikergast

Medal and ribbon bar of LtdR Friedrich Müller, observer at FA A 282. The cross is made of silver. 30.10.1916 Hamburg Hanseaten Kreuz

In the same year like the observer badge, the land plane pilot badge was introduce. Much less awarded that the see plane pilot badge.

Everything is welcome not only badges. Pictures, paper, documents, etc. Regards Alex

It seems noone is interested in navy aviation. Regards Alex

On 28 Mai 1915, 2 years after the navy pilot badge, the observer badge was introduced. Bronce gilded Schaper observer badge.

Nice picture. It match twice to your collection ;-) Regards Alex

Bronce gilded, hollow plated, cut out crown.

Come on guys help me to keep this thread alive. Look on your collection, i`'m sure you have something related to the german naval aviation, maybe a picture, a paper, document or something else. Kind regards Alex

and this one.

Medal and ribbon bar of Lt Heinrich Kessler, pilot at FFA 58 / FA A 284. 12.01.15 Ernestinischer-Hausorden: Silbernes Verdienstkreuz mit Schwertern (RIR 233) (347 awards) 11.11.16 Sachsen-Meiningen: Ehrenzeichen für Verdienst im Krieg (FFA 58) (3924 Verleihungen) He is the only known member of the aviation service who had this combination.

Meybauer, silver gilded solid see pilot badge.