Alfred

Thank Rick for your interesting reply. Research is ordered. Lets see what comes out. All is possible. OGPW 151.585 - 38. Army OGPW 151.852 - awarded 04/1946 Red Star 1.845.186 - awawded 08/1945 MM-medal 2.910.186 - awarded 11/1944 Long Service Looks like the MM-medal is for long service. best regards Andreas ------------------------------

Great and very complete research with picture of the soldier. nice little group regards Andreasd

The Medal for Distinguished Service in Protecting the Public Order looks good to me. Looks like a silver plated version. (Variation 3) But picture from an 90 / 180 degree angle are better. Also a big picture of the globe with hammer and sickle is helpful. Also the weight of the medal is interesting. Some very good fakes have a different weight as the originals. The weight should be in this range: 16 + 1 Gramm . And the ring of the medal is also sometimes a good indicator to recognise fakes. best regrads Andreas example:

Yes , it is possible that some early good fakes maybe made from the mint (Red Banner 8, 9 ..) or from personel who worked for the mint. A few month ago I also hold a city medal with wrong reverse in my hand and it was also bought in the very early 90?s and the quality was good. I saw no difference in the reverse to a regular medal. regards Andreas

I like them.

KDVR, the Belgrad medal has a wrong reverse. The date 13.02.1945 is from the Budapest medal. The Belgrad medal schows the date 20.10.1944. A longer time ago, there was a discussion if medals with wrong dates exist (mint errors) or if they are later restrikes of the mint/fakes. I am not totally sure how the discussion ended, but if I remember right these medals with wrong reverse were not original. On the Mondvor webpage they removed this medal types a longer time ago. regards Andreas

Yes you are right, there were mostly guns/daggers and equipment. There were only a few low level soviet awards (Red Star, Red Banner of Labour and a few medals) available and they were overpriced. Red Banner of Labour for 100 Euro and Red Star for 80 Euro. One vendor from the Baltic States had a few interesting genuine soviet dagger and Schaschkas, but in my oppinion very expensive. Schaschka was about 1.000 Euro and he had an navy officer dagger without catch button from 1945 for also 1.000 Euro. I didn?t ask for the price of the diplomatic dagger. Except for one seller from Germany who quite collecting and sold parts of his collection there were only a few soviet medals. But this seller had many fakes. This group was the best he had. Nearly all his rarer awards were in my oppinion fakes.

and his name. looks like: Drugov Aleksei Wladimirowitsch

and the award book.

and reverse

This one crossed at the weekend in Ciney (Belgium) my way and I couldn?t resist. An OGPW 1st class with MZPP Red Star and a military merit medal (possible long service). OGPW - 151.983 REd Star - 1.845.916 Military Merit - 2.910.808 regards Andreas

and reverse of the OGPW

and the OGPW

reverse and the seamless ring

and the awards

and the name of the soldier.

This group crossed a few weeks ago my way on ebay. I am not totally convinced about the originality of the group, but the price was good. So it is no loss if the group belongs not together. What concers me is, that the ink used for writing the name and the serial number of the awards is different and that the ribbon is wrong. Not a totally give away. The awards are in the right order of appearance entered in the book and there are no sign that old serial numbers are bleeched out. The awards itself are okay. The Bravery medal is a uncommon sub-variation with seamless, solid ring construction of the eyelet. Only found in the serial number range 2,420,000 to 2,540,000. The ribbon for the military merit medal is a bleched out ribbon of a distinguished labour medal, on reverse you can see the orignal colour. The soldiers name seem to be Medschenko. Any comments are welcome. best regards Andreas

Thanks Rick, quite interesting, I dindn?t notice that. Note that the cover has the correct M1946"16 Republics" state arms, while the inside design still shows a n old 11 Republics badge regards Andreas

Hello, this came in today. Any clues about the name of the recipant and what he studied? thanks and best regards Andreas

Kamenz is near Dresden in "East Germany". regards Andreas

I think the nimbus comes from the angle were the picture is taken. Here are two genuine medals one with nimbus and the other without. best regards Andreas

The medal is original but not so rare. best regards Andreas

Nice group to a female soldier. It seems to be, that the first portrait photo was taken in Germany. To me it looks like: Foto Schulz Kamenz/Sa. (Sachsen) ?? Stra?e 20 (Street) regards Andreas

An award for fighting against Japan. You see them not very often. regards Andreas

Order of Glory 3rd class Number Date awarded Date issued Name Remarks 1 -17.11.1943 Charin I. 2.316 -00.12.1943 2.619 -31.01.1944 3.852 -02.01.1944 Private Ivan Ignatievich Romanets 834. Rifle Regiment 6.838 -22.01.1944 10.262 -16.08.1943 Korsch W.W. 10.504 - Smirnov I.M. 11.476 -00.03.1944 14.080 -21.02.1944 Sgt. Petr Petukhov, Squad Commander Leningrad Front, 367th Independent Engineer Battalion, 110th Rifle Corps, 42nd Army 15.967 - Kiek N.A. 25.254 -10.03.1994 24.03.1944 30.070 -04.04.1944 35.207 -06.04.1944 Sargent W. P. Gnitienko Crimea; 2. Garde Armee 38.018 -18.04.1944 18.04.1944 38.168 -12.07.1944 40.204 -03.12.1943 27.04.1944 41.608 -04.05.1944 41.979 -08.05.1944 44.021 -12.04.1944 24.04.1944 44.346 -18.12.1943 45.916 -22.02.1944 46.339 -24.03.1945 13.02.1969 48.447 -20.10.1944 49.360 - Kolesnik B.T. 52.073 -19.02.1944 Junior Sargeant Mikhail Timofeevich Skrylev 248 Rifle Regiment 55.739 -01.02.1944 63.809 -08.05.1944 Senior Sergeant Shcherbakov 949th Rifle Regiment, 259th Artemovskoi Rifle Division, crossing of the Dniester River on the night of the 13-14.04.44 65.176 -02.09.1944 67.534 -20.02.1944 68.893 -28.05.1944 75.677 -30.07.1944 Comrade Kiziatov, Idris liberating the city of Vilnus from the German invaders (07.-13.07.1944); 215 RD (Rifle Division) 82.701 -25.06.1944 83.192 -00.07.1944 Guards first sergeant Dmitry Stepanovich Kabanenko 2nd rifle battalion, 197th Guards rifle regiment, 64th Guards rifle Krasnoselskaya, holding order of Red Banner division 84.017 -22.08.1944 84.409 - Moskalenko F.M. 90.732 -00.07.1944 97.290 -28.07.1944 98.852 -05.08.1944 99.691 -01.08.1944 99.856 -01.08.1944 Platon Okhaydovich Dbar, Master Sergeant 4th Air Army, Commander detached company of airdrome service 108.815 -03.05.1944 Private Zirakashvili Georgy Georgievich Kerch Peninsula, 3rd rifle battalion of 1375th rifle regiment of 414th Rifle Anapa division 116.656 -28.02.1945 120.581 -01.08.1944 31.08.1946 121.304 -28.09.1944 55th Rifle Regiment, 20 Guards Rifle Division 125.945 -28.08.1944 Corporal David Illarionovich Shopin 92nd Rifle Corps, 997th Separate Communication Battalion ? Telephone Operator 128.285 -28.09.1944 129.446 -20.02.1945 129.534 -26.10.1944 Alexander Pavlovitch Degtyar 337 Rifle Division, Bug River 130.994 -30.09.1944 20.09.1944 Private Afanasy Vasil'evich Kindyakov 106th Engineer Sapper Battalion, squad leader in 5th Mountain Engineer Sapper Brigade of 2nd Ukrainian Front 131.934 -01.09.1944 139.464 -14.06.1944 139.560 -15.09.1944 139.722 - Junior Sergeant Ditkovsky 238th Destroying Antitank Artillery Regiment, 24. August 1944 -Rum?nien- 145.061 -06.07.1947 147.975 -10.05.1943 Mikhail Pavlovich Kostyrko, Lieutenant Colonel 15th Independent Railways Reconstruction battalion 155.631 -31.08?.1944 Sitar, Andrey Maximovich 7th Guards Airborne regiment, Combat Engineer, 2nd Guards Airborne division 160.397 -24.07.1944 Senior Sergeant of the Guard Aramais Pogosyan Attached to 31st Guard Rifle Division 97th Guard Rifle Regiment, Gun Commander 161.123 -26.10.1943 166.301 -28.06.1945 166.302 -28.06.1945 171.484 -04.02.1945 182.726 - 14.04.1945 Private Vasiliy I. Ovchinnikov for action near Klein Medenau (Konigsberg campaign 189.570 -02.11.1944 10.01.1945 195.023 -09.02.1945 Guards Sergeant Khaim Mordukhovich Malkin, Pilot ILjusin 2 1st guards assault aviation division 197.343 -06.02.1945 198.941 -07.02.1945 205.738 -17.09.1944 207.058 -11.12.1944 Pavel Filippovich Velichko 4th Gds Rifles Div, Ungarn 210.423 -19.02.1945 212.848 -11.01.1945 214.480 -07.09.1944 215.665 -21.11.1944 217.449 -20.03.1944 219.028 -09.09.1944 10.01.1945 220.702 -01.08.1944 229.281 -15.03.1945 229.884 -31.12.1943 235.499 -24.01.1945 Sargeant Vasilij Aleksandrovich Gorbatov 323. Rifle Division, 38. Army 237.146 -14.02.1945 25.02.1945 Guards sergeant Rizhov S.A. 74. Guards Infantry Division; Battle near Railway Station Kreisen 239.138 -08.07.1944 240.736 -30.01.1945 240.853 -11.08.1944 244.963 -02.01.1945 Guards Private Korchuganov, Pavel Semenovich 149 Guards Rifle Regiment, 49 Guards Rifle Division, For Fighting in Hungary 246.577 -02.08.1944 Sergeant Serdyukov 207th Independent Tank Destroyer Division, 348th Rifle Division. 250.954 -07.09.1945 253.401 -20.02.1945 256.691 -08.03.1945 SCOUT Junior Segeant Aleksei Prokhorovich Alekseikin 31st Tank Corps 257.682 -25.08.1944 Guards Senior Sergeant Aleksei Pavlovich Tverdokhlev 193rd Guards Rifles Regiment of 90th Guards Rifles Division 263.859 -09.02.1945 272.091 -11.01.1945 280.585 -01.10.1944 21.02.1947 281.082 -25.02.1945 285.596 -21.02.1945 NCO Artyom Ivakhnenko Semenovitsh 183. Rifle Division, eastern Czechoslovakia 286.673 -31.10.1944 Senior Sergeant Aslambeck Konstantinovitch Gutnov 6th Rifle Company, 453th Rymniksky Regiment78. Rifle Division, 2. Ukrainian Front 286.676 -31.10.1944 291.504 -28.02.1945 292.045 -00.10.1944 Guards Private Skoredenok 9th Guards Rifle Division, 397th Rifle Division, Latvia 292.085 -15.03.1945 292.813 -26.03.1945 294.447 -05.09.1944 Senior Sergeant (Starshy Serzhant) Boikii, Leonid Fedorovich 166th Rifles Division 305.987 -25.04.1945 Private Bazarbai Karmov 360th Independent Line 'Order of the Red Star' Signals Battalion; Signals 2nd Ukrainian Army 306.650 -31.03.1945 310.012 -27.02.1945 311.711 -22.03.1945 Senior Sargeant Antseigin 4. Guards Division 323.520 -14.03.1945 328.762 -31.01.1945 330.482 -23.04.1945 Guards Senior Sergeant N.K. Svistun 10th Guards "Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky" PARACHUTE RIFLES REGIMENT, 3rd Guards "Order of the Red Banner, Order of Suvorov" Parachute Division, 3rd Ukrainian Front 336.919 -07.05.1945 Guards Junior Sergeant Mikhail Petrovich Smadik 22nd Guards Cavalry Regiment, 5th Guards Cavalry Division 340.416 -24.04.1945 341.651 -02.10.1944 Private Pyotr Yakovlevich Orlov 1st Battalion, 110th Guards Rifle Brest Regiment, 38th Guards Rifle Division 342.107 -27.04.1947 343.703 -09.03.1945 360.549 -03.09.1944 361.054 - 04.04.1949 361.225 -09.05.1945 Ermakov N.M. 375.700 -07.03.1945 378.049 -15.05.1945 381.095 -26.05.1945 386.590 -13.02.1945 394.743 -29.05.1945 401.524 -04.06.1945 406.715 - for street fighting in Berlin 406.828 -19.06.1945 Private Postoenko, Vladimir Afanas?evich for street fighting in Berlin, 120th Separate Guards Sapper Battalion, 6th Guards Tank Corps, 1. Ukrainian Front 408.038 -15.04.1945 01.05.1945 413.552 -05.08.1945 416.795 -15.06.1945 416.960 -13.05.1945 Guards Sergeant Minody Andreyevich Nosov 37th Guards Rifle Division 418.671 -07.09.1944 430.528 -02.06.1945 Private Ivan Vasilivich Butikov 436.066 -06.05.1945 443.857 -01.07.1956 Private NETSENKO, Matvey Pavlovich 55th Rifle Corps, Order to 387th rifle division, On October 25, 1944, in the ranks of the 416th Taganskaya division he took part in battle near Melitopol where he was wounded. Crimea Region 443.964 -30.06.1945 448.911 -15.09.1944 Junior Lieutenant M.G. Lunin 897th Mountain Infantry Regiment, 242nd Rifle Division 460.585 -24.05.1945 Corporal Anatoly Borisov 4th battery, the 297 Anti-Aircraft Artillery Regiment, battle on Crimea. 13.04.1944 ; 1 Belorussian Front 465.746 -00.06.1945 471.225 -13.04.1944 478.594 -24.03.1945 Private Bulko, Mikhail Egorovich 117 Independent Guards Reconnaissance Company, 121 Guards Rifle Division, 13 Army, 1 Ukrainian Front; Germany River Kreise 493.391 -21.02.1945 Aleksandr Petrovich Chukhin 546th Rifle Regiment, 199th Rifle Division, 59th Army, Volkhov Front; Scout 513.082 - Sergeant Kalina 226th Guards Rifle Regiment, 74th Guards Rifle Division, 3rd Belorussian Front, Street Fighting in Berlin 524.705 -06.11.1945 545.832 -23.03.1945 Guards Sergeant I. F. Kordon 548.714 -24.04.1945 554.496 -06.02.1945 Izatov 6. Guards Rifle Division 556.827 -15.05.1945 564.610 -05.06.1945 567.268 -11.06.1946 570.112 -06.11.1947 572.xxx -12.09.1945 Yefreitor Luka Konstantinovich Fomin Action against Japanese, 221 Division, 2nd Company, 1st Battalion of 695 Regiment 572.633 -18.09.1945 583.370 -06.11.1947 586.312 -06.11.1947 Ivan Timofeyevich Taraskin Kriegsinvalide, for wounds in WWII 629.620 -xx.06.1945 Guards Sergeant Fetisov A.V for action on 24.04.1945, 62 Guards Cavalery Regiment 632.065 -15.03.1945 633.159 -09.03.1945 Senior Sargent Zagorodsky 28th Guards Airborne Rifle Regiment, belogs to 9th Guards Airborne Division 633.518 -06.11.1947 640.061 -30.05.1951 641.096 -12.02.1945 643.881 -30.05.1951 00.00.1951 Sergeev, Anatoli Vasilievich 11th Partisan Detachment, 8th Partisan Brigade in January 1944 648.645 -30.12.1948 650.105 - 18.09.1951 652.549 -30.05.1951 656.162 - 12.01.1952 672.745 -04.08.1944 675.580 -23.02.1945 675.790 -15.08.1944 18.06.1953 677.389 -19.06.1944 Private Arhipov Pavel Mihajlovich 14th Rifle Regiment, 72nd Rifle Division, Karelian Front 677.646 - Karelian Front (?) 677.891 -27.02.1943 31.03.1952 Nikolai Dmitrrievich Skvortsov 682.521 -25.03.1953 686.880 -21.08.1944 Private Vlasyuk 273rd Rifle Division 698.043 -20.05.1945 Private Kuzmichenko, Vasily, Grigoryevich 1st Guards Army, 161 Rifle Division, 575th Rifle Regiment 703.671 - 24.12.1953 706.007 -22.09.1944 710.249 -27.01.1958 Private Nikolai Gavrilovich Zherebtsov 100th Cavalry Regiment, Leningrad Front 712.708 -27.01.1958 06.03.1958 713.759 -21.08.1958 718.903 -04.04.1945 00.00.1964 Private David Samuilovich Lezhava 10 Artillery Division 726.478 -24.09.1966 04.11.1966 730.728 -06.05.1945 Telba, Tatyana Mikhailona 67 Rifle Corps dated 6.4.45, (Krakow, Poland) 735.629 -08.06.1967 29.07.1967 747.713 -15.02.1968 Georgy Kalistratovich Yanatyev for wounds 755.035 -12.06.1968 10.08.1968 759.769 -12.06.1968 Sergeant Chizhukov 22 March 1945; fighting in outskirts of Berlin; aviation regiment 774.875 -30.04.1975 782.702 -00.00.1975 Verleihung f?r 06.08.1946 783.634 -25.10.1989 797.062 - 16.06.1976 Eintragung Ordensbuch 805.395 -22.01.1945 28.03.1990 Date of deed: 22 Jan 1945, Date approved: 20 March 1945, Date awarded: 28 March 1990