ArHo

2 hours ago, TacHel said:

They managed to squeeze in 4 more before year's end...

 

Medal "For Contribution to the Implementation of the State Armament Program" Order 504 of 4 September 2019;

Medal "For Distinction in Financial Security" Order 530 of 13 September 2019;

Medal "For participation in the military parade to mark the 75th anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945" Order 590 of 17 October 2019;

Jubilee Medal "100 Years of the Air Force Academy named after Professor N. E. Zhukovsky and Y. A. Gagarin" Order 747 of 19 December 2019

Will it ever end...? ? Thank you, very interesting update!

Cheers

ArHo

Just a little addition because I find it interesting: Strich-Division means stripe-division. In the summer of 1917 the men of the ID 208 were ordered not to wear any numbers on their epaulets /dont wear epaulets at all (compare the photo above) - the reason was secrecy. Instead they wore from June 1917 - as The Prussian already wrote above - on the lower part of the left sleeve of the tunic a horizontal stripe made from white cloth and above it different geometric symbols. IR 25 had a vertical stripe, IR 185 a slanting cross, RIR 65 a standing cross, FAR 267 a triangle, the foot artillery a square. The staff only wore the horizontal stripe. Source of the additional info: genwiki.genealogy.net

Cheers

ArHo

Hey, thanks for your answers and these very interesting image-additions! I had some contact with units of the ID 208 - but the name "Strich-Division" was new to me. Do you have any ideas on the helmet in the first picture - could it be wire? I cant take a better shot unfortunately..

Cheers

ArHo

And the first part of the rest, three gentlemen from Amberg...

As always I am very grateful for any help on these men!

All the best for 2020

ArHo

And the second part of the rest - a man with a medal bar from Erlangen (Major upwards), an Oberstleutnant with 13 on the Schulterstücke (?) from Ingolstadt named "Schenk" (?) dated 6.10.1901 - and a group of four men, from IR 12 (?), taken in Ulm.

Again, thanks for any help and have a good start in 2020 wherever you are on this planet.

Alles Gute

On 27/12/2019 at 17:42, Komtur said:

Yes.

Nice! This gives at least a hint who it may be - I would place my bet on Major a. D. Kühne, Artillery, Halle. The medals fit if we consider, from left to right (viewer perspective): EK21813, Kriegsdenkmünze für Kämpfer (version unclear), Dienstauszeichnungskreuz, Erinnerungs-Kriegsdenkmünze 1863 - seems he had his medals arranged a little crude on the occasion of the 50 years celebrations of the latter year. But of course it's all only a guess... ?

Cheers

ArHo

Good day everyone!

We all know that the german army of ww1 sometimes used covers for the steel helmet - but somehow pictures of these are quite hard to find unless you would want to pay a lot of money. You may imagine how happy I was (and still am) am when I recently found in a small group of post cards of a Unteroffizier in a saxon regiment - named and all - a group picture of his company, dated 5-1918, with different types of cover pictured! (at least I hope so but would ask for your expertise) ?

I am quite sure that there is a cloth cover on one helmet and - perhaps - the rarely seen "chicken" wire on the other? Looking forward to your feedback! (btw even if you disagree I am really into the expressions on the faces of these very young men - they are on the way into action and they know it...)

Best

ArHo

On 14/05/2019 at 15:34, Komtur said:

Unfortunately not.

Komtur - i just have to ask: is there a photographer / place printed on the back of the plate? 

Cheers

ArHo

Very, very nice - it is always a pleasure to see Hannoverian (one of my major military-history-fields-of-interest) medals in such a wonderful complete state!  Thanks for showing!

On 15/12/2019 at 19:53, Glenn J said:

Hi Arho,

I tend to agree that it is indeed Jakob Hitzler. It would pre-date his 1 January 1902 award of the BMV4a. He is shown in the 1871 Militär-Handbuch as an Offizier-Aspirant (Junker) in the 7. Infanterie-Regiment. However, there is another possiblity: Oberstleutnant Benno Brünn, Landwehr-Bezirkskommandeur of Kaiserslautern around the same time and who had exactly the same decorations and wore the number 6 on the epaulettes. Oberst Brünn was a Junker in 2. Jäger-Bataillon in 1871.

Regards

Glenn

Very nice Glenn! Well so it means: keep on searching - perhaps there is a picture of Hitzler in one of the regimental histories (I will try to order them in my library).

Cheers

Well and - before I post the last images from this album - here he is: Meet Mr. Martin Elsässer from 1866 to ca. 1890. I love this series which shows this proud bavarian officer changing with the years... ?

30 minutes ago, dedehansen said:

Hi ArHo,

maybe theses?!

Kind regards
Andreas

Wow, thanks @Utgardloki@spoleiand especially @dedehansenfor your input! I'll have one on you guys tonight ?

@dedehansen I think you nailed it! I took some time to check and it looks like the 12th bavarian IR took part in all these battles, great! I combined my and your picture to make the similarities clear - if you dont want that please tell me and I will remove it. Cheers

Glenn: Thank you - great! I am very sure that's him (The Nose and ear are too similar for any coincidence) - now I will do some research on his wife :-)

So first of all here ist one man I was able to identify (I hope...): It should be Oberstleutnant Jakob Hitzler 6. IR, Erlangen (father of Jakob Ritter von Hitzler, t 1915, Militär-Max-Joseph-Orden). I like his set of battle-clasps of which I could until now only decipher "Paris". More to follow...

Best

Nope, sorry, havent seen him - and I am not sure I would want that... ?

Best

ArHo

Wow, that was fast - and obviously too easy ? - thanks Glenn!

Now here in contrast is a really tricky one which, I am afraid, perhaps cannot be definitely solved at all (or only with another, named picture to compare) - an officer from Amberg with his wife. Unfortunately no name, no medal bar and the numeral / symbol on his Schulterstück is impossible to identify, even with a magnifyer, so I can only assume he also belonged to KB6IR. Any guesses?

But anyway - I really love the medals of his wife, awarded for her service as a nurse or the likes in 1870/71 as she has the noncombatants commemorative medal for that conflict. ? Have a nice sunday!

Hi all,

I recently got some friendly, very efficient help in Identifying a bavarian officer from imperial Germany here:

There is a small number of nice CDV-photos in the album where this one came from, that show bavarian army officers I would love to see identified, too. So I thought it would be good to start a thread for these photos and I will add them here when I find the time to take pictures good enough to show. Looking forward to any input on these!

And here is the first man... A senior officer, Oberstleutnant? Picture taken in Straubing, I think it is a "5" on the Epauletten. This picture luckily has a name on the back but I cannot decipher it - it is a dedication "to his beloved old friend Elsässer" (who owned this Album), written on 18. May 1901.

Cheers
ArHo

Wow,

Glenn, Prussian: Thank you very much! That really made my day!

Though I enjoy researching a bit myself I have some problems with later-empire bavarian officers as in Hannover I cannot access the Militär-Handbücher of the time (and they are not online, yet).

This picture comes from an impressive Album - kept as whole - of a bavarian officer who served 1866 and 1870-71 and got some pictures (not too many - ca. 10) from his friends ca. 1890-1900. I am not sure about some of them but if you all enjoy it, I would post the best few of them in the time to come. Perhaps we can ID one or two more...?

Regards

ArHo

3 hours ago, Glenn J said:

Morning,

Born 30 August 1858 at Sulzbach.

DA2: 30.09.01
BMV4b: 05.03.02
RAO4: 17.06.02
WF4: 17.06.02
BZ5E: 17.06.02
JM: 12.3.05
BMV4a: 14.12.05
KLK: 07.01.16
EK2: 04.09.16

25.01.15: char. Oberstleutnant

Following mobilisation he was appointed as the commander of the replacement battalion of 11. Infanterie-Regiment.

The awards date the photo therefore between the rash of awards on 17 June 1902 and his promotion to Major on 15 October 1902. Incidentally as a Bavarian non-veteran of the Franco-German War, he was not automatically entitled to the award of the Prussian centenary medal of 1897.

Regards

Glenn 

Glenn,

that is really interesting - so I was wrong about the date because I "read" the medals wrong - I will have to learn more about Bavaria... Thanks for this piece of knowledge about the Zentenarmedaille!

Best
ArHo

4 hours ago, ixhs said:

#1 Bavarian MMCr

#2 Baden Order of Zähringer Lion knight 1 with oaks

#3 Prussia Red eagle order 4th class or 3rd

#4 Württemberg Friedrichsorder knight 1

# 5 Bavarian LSC 24 years

Dear ixhs

thank you very much - really appreciated! Now see what I can find out, might some time but I will tell here.

All the best

Hallo everyone!

Although I knew this forum for quite some time I somehow never had anything special - or difficult enough to post it here asking for help.

Well, now it has happened - I got this nice little picture, taken in Amberg / Bavaria, presumably before 1897 (no Zentenarmedaille). I would guess that, as far I can see by the Epauletten combined with the place, that this is a Hauptmann in the 6th bayarian infantry regiment. But honestly I am not sure about his decorations. I Guess it is, from left to right:

- Militärverdienstorden Knights cross (?)

- Orden vom Zähringer Löwen Knights cross (?)

- Prussia red eagle (???)

- Unknown

- Bavaria Dienstauszeichnungskreuz 2. Klasse for 24 years

Well, before I continue researching this man, any help on his decorations is appreciated!

Regards