Tommy Chen

I even thought you went to a museum but looking at the photos it was even better than the museum.😵 Please let us know when this gentleman opens one. Could you please also post more medalbars if you have taken pictures of them?

Appreciate your sharing, these two pics indeed contribute more info about him. Do you mind if I share the photo on another forum so others can also look for some information? Thank you for providing more info!

May we see the pic of back side?

Thanks，for myself I probably will not consider to touch it since you need to tear the whole bar down for replacing a award. Though this one could be little easier，still will damage other threads and cloth. I hope I could get the better pics for the awards papers too，but you need to pay for it if you want better quality. My friend told me that these are probably from Hermann. They would sell the right of use of their auctions’ photos to make extra $. That’s also why you cant find their archives of previous auctions.

Thanks for answering. The light was bad and my phone camera processed too much. Probably that’s the reason why enamel looks so awful😂. Sadly，I don’t have another pic of them right now. Enamels are basicly the same if you actually look at them.

Hi guys, Recently got this medalbar without the owner's info. With the help of Mr. Moritz and Mr. Daniel Krause, the potential owner of this bar could be Hauptmann/Captain Ernst Nordmann from the IR 112, later spotter and leader of the Fliegerabteilung 234, retiring as a Major. I would like to express my sincerest gratitude to these two gentlemen for helping me find this name and other info. Sadly, the Zähringer VK on his bar is wrong and there should be the knights cross second class on it. No idea how this happened, please provide any opinions you have. About Hauptmann/Captain Ernst Nordmann, we were only able to find a few websites containing his name and unit but not personal photos: http://www.frontflieger.de/2-faa234.html https://www.buddecke.de/afa234.htm Luckily, we found 4 pics from Alamy that have his full awards certificates and EK1. But the resolution is poor and the source is unknown, probably from previous Hermann's auction? https://www.alamy.com/captain-ernst-nordmann-leader-o-20th-century-editorial-use-only-image245917539.html Moritz also found that he took part in a book „Jungdeutschlands Fliegerbuch“. Here is the all info we have now. Please make comments or provide your opinions if you have any new findings or thoughts on this medalbar. Thanks.

Got mine with the case even cheaper then this😂

Three of mine，2 by Godet.

mao huang hao🤣

I really appreciate your advice of selling them individually for my benefit, but personally I really don't like to take a whole medalbar apart eventhough it is a postwar assemblage. I think it's best to sell it as-is since I've seen too many medalbars that have been terribly torn down. No offense, but that's probably my ambiguous collection trait.

Thank you so much for your advice and long comment sir. I think I probably will keep this bar for a while since at least the orders and ribbons are good, and the refund process is so annoying. I believe this discussion at least would warm the people about other "impressive" medal bars in the future.

Thank you so much for your answers. Well, that's really mixed news. Now I have to decide whether to keep this bar or try to get a refund from teh auction house. I bought this from C&T Auctions, which is a British company, also the first time saw a such "impressive" German medal bar on it. I also submitted an evaluation request to EMEDALS, Zeige, and Ratisbons to see what they would say. Since C&T's refund policy also requires expert's assessment but not forum disscussion?. Anyway, thank you again for your comments, and I will post their evaluation once I get feedbacks. Well, I guess it's really bad for me that the first "big piece" is such a delusive thing. I probably should check this forum regularly in the future to avoid such dangerous things.?

Thank you so much for your analysis. I also attached some new pics below, hoping they are better for you examing this bar. One question in my mind is that why such high-rank bar would have a relatively low-quality EK2 and how could you tell that SEHO is a private-purchase piece? For the new pics you can see that the sides of this medal bar are not sealed, is that a normal circumstance? Thank you. It's totaly fine and I understand my photography is sucks LOL. That's why I post this on the forum for everyone to discuss.

Hi guys, just got this today. I noticed that the EK2 is not good compared to my other pieses (paint finish, ribbon, structure, details). However, I'm not sure about the remaining medals and orders, probably some ribbons look like weird. How do you guys think?? Here are some details