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Here's my latest....the same blued sheet metal core,the same frame but again a different pin! That makes 3 variations now-collecting imperial EKs is an endless story! But here are the pics... Micha

I wouldn't say organisation-not long time ago I've seen some scans from an old catalog somewhere...The "Deutscher Offiziersverein" sold nearly everything....but it's true-these EKs are really hard to find.(Usually I don't buy rusty EKs,but........).I know there's another variation out-the one with two little screws-so easy to find like the KMST EKs......... Micha

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And here is his poor,rusty brother-and the washer is missing,too!Another one that has to leave my collection,now I'm looking for the one with the two screws Obverse

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Another"not so easy to get "iron cross-this is a really nice example of the "Deutscher Offiziersverein".In hand it looks like 2+,but the scan ruins the pics-they are always to bright.....anyway-I bought this one as an upgrade for my unmarked one from the same maker-here are the pics,I hope you like it! Micha

I would like to know myself-I could sell them my 1914doubles(only originals) for the triple price

Seller says it's just his opinion-no guarantee as usual...... http://cgi.ebay.de/Eisernes-Kreuz-1870-1-K...1QQcmdZViewItem Micha

That's hard to tell(it wasn't awarded to me),but it looks like a professional work.I'm not shure,but the reverse of one of these is shown in a book(I think in the Previtera).A collector friend of mine has got the same type of cross with this hooks-so I think they are original to this ek and not later added! I'm not at home at the moment,but if you want I can take some shots from an angle next weekend. I don't want to mess with the hooks......you know what I mean. Micha

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Hi Bill, I must be blind.......I've got the brother of your beauty,but with a little extra.Look at the obverse-same core,just a little more used.And a s a bonus,the reverse with a little extra @Chris-very impressive stuff! the pic of the EK is a little small,but I think it's from the same type.

Nice shots!But it's a hard case....after lkooking a while at your pics I'm voting for "IVI"-why?I've got a "MM" in my collection-please have a look.The arms of the "M's" are tighter together,exactely in the way I would expect it!Here is the ring with the maker mark:

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Here's another "textbook" Floch(in the meaning of the word... ) Obverse

No doubt,a Meybauer! And a very special one-first I've seen......We know that Meybauer used the '14 parts also in the third Reich.In my collection is a '39 Schinkel with the early '39 pin and a 1914 frame.I can tell this because one of my '14 Meybauer pinbacks (it has left my collection..)has had the same frame.And this one here is very,very special because they used the new type of frame together with the old screwback system! I'm not collecting the 1914 LDO EKs,but this one..........well,another one at my endless wanted list! Micha

@Bill.....welcome at the dark side That's a really nice one-I love this detailed cores! There are some sililarities between yours and the "square",but I'm shure they where made by different makers.I think "square" and "CD 800" are from the same tools,but compare the core(especially the numbers)-different.But anyway-to get that EK was very well done(because of my job I can't hunt at Ebay at the moment........)but the next one that's coming across my way it's mine! Micha

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A long search has found an end....today this little beauty dropped in-a really nice Godet Berlin with the two hooks! The cross is in really good condition(the scans don't show the beauty of this EK),both hooks are complete and undamaged,just the stamping is a little unclear.Hope you like it..... Micha

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I agree with Joe-that's a wonderful Meybauer!I have to think about your Meybauer idea......I'm not at home at the moment and it's hard to judge this two EKs just with a few pics at the pc.At saturday I will compare them......and to shorten the time-here's another Meybauer. Micha

Doug, any chance to see some pics? I would like to compare your EK with my FR/Fr.....It seems to be the maker FR used just one core,but all my Fr pieces are a little different-and when you have a look at the 2nd class Fr...a few different stamp variations,same with the core.There's a lot of work in it for the serious EK collector! Micha

Hi Joe, I would suggest it's a W-have a look at the little dot next to the W! A friend of mine owns a 1st. class FrW,I would like to find out if it's stamped the same way. Micha