Alex K

Hi, don't know if this is the right place to post this, so if not could the moderator please move or delete. I was having a rummage in my box of "Things long forgotten" and came across this. It was given to me if memory serves correctly by the brother of a soldier that served there at the time. Are these collectible or is it just a quirky curio, BTW never been used regards Alex

Would you replace the ribbons or prefer to keep like they are

BTW any chance these could be original ribbons

Hi Ed I agree with other comments, fantastic collection regards Alex

Thats a pretty awsome colletion you have, its difficult to tell from the photo, but are the ribbons original watered silk or the later replacements? they do to me look like watered originals? Indian recipients is a long ignored field, when you consider that they formed a vital part of the overall strength of the British forces involved in the first and second world wars

Brian I think the important thing here is, and personally I think you should be congratulated from rescueing these, most collectors or dealers may have looked at them and thought what a load of junk and they may well have ended in the trash can. Your keen eye for something different has indeed saved them, additionally the guy who's original medals they were and possibly the guy that changed them have not been consigned to the dustbin of history and forgotten, Hope you find more info on this interesting pair good luck regards Alex

Funnily enough I quite like, them, they're certainly different and add a little bit of additional interest to your collection regards Alex

Hi Ed, Thanks, your'e quite right of course, this is where British medals, early ones at any rate score over other countries, they were named which gives the opportunity to find out to some degree what these guys went through. You're also quite right that replacement ribbons for these are not the best quality, the originals being "Watered", I do however have the originals to these medals, which are in quite a good condition. My "Thing" is to mount some medals in frames for display, and to make them look "Pretty" I tend to change the ribbons, just my personal preference example attached regards Alex

Eccleshall, boots sale! about 1/2 hour drive from me, I think I'll go, you never know, presumably these went for a boot sale price, nice find regards Alex

Hi 1914 star set. Awarded to from right to left 1914 star & Bar to L9661 Pt E W Evans 1/E Surrey regiment 1914 star with dates to 9172 Pte W H Warner R.Irish Rifles 1914 star to 14594 Pte S Wootton North Staffs Regiment not a great deal of research done yet but I'll get there eventually regards

Hi ricky1972 I'll do just that. As I have never really collected South American Awards, (A lost opportunity) what sort of prices are we talking about? as looking at these they are some really attractive pieces, I must be honest the ones you've posted with what I call the Aztec influence really excite me more than those based on similarities with established European orders. any help appreciated regards Alex

A couple more The one with OLS is a three piece construction, the OLS are HAND ENGRAVED on the reverse with I think L/16 or something like that, the other one is a one piece, but die stamped not cast, looks quite good also, to those who are not familiar with RK's being three piece could in a few years of patination be dangerous. BTW the ribbon for the one with OLS is actually to the one piece I posted before this. regards Alex

Hi Got one, had the identical oaks n swords also, lost them however, paid ?10 ukp for it, and thought I'd got a genuine RK bargain as well Just goes to show regards Alex

Definately Souval with the unique ribs on the beading corners Alex

That's a truly beautiful EK1, Yum Yum! Alex

Fantastic pieces, but these are really ?Some seem to have almost an Aztec influence to me

Hi Hankmeister sorry for the delay the real one is stamped 87 regards Alex

Hi Hunyadi, thanks for the info, The BG is not engraved but stamped, unfortunately I can't post a picture as my digital camera does not have a macro facility and I can't scan the area where the stamp is, see photo. There are no other markings or proofs that I can see. They may be bronze based as they are quite heavy so wouldn't have a silver hallmark regards Alex

and the military version

Hi everyone, I have these two rather beautiful examples of this order in my collection. As can be seen, one is civil, the other military, do both have the correct ribbons?, the civil version has a stamp in betwenn the arms which appears to say BG although I can't be certain at this stage, The military version has no markings that I can see. any advice would be helpful, particularly with the stamping thanks Alex

Hi Steve, I came to the conclusion that better off without them on the medal, at least it shows the original ribbon of better regards

Hi mines an outie regards Alex

haynau thanks for the info, for the time being I'll hang onto it but if I decide to sell, I'll keep your details on file regards

kev thanks, Super image, most interesting to live so close to real history! I'll keep it on file, I wouldn't like to meet him on a bad day!!!!! regards

Finally the case