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I have just bought this , did I made a mistake or ? I read the ribbon bar as EK - MeZ -Old HO - Old Mvk - Colonial Medal - Silesian eagle - EhK - Long Service What do you think ? Christer

Just saw the Kriegstammrolle ..... Pleaaaaaase Mikko , who is it ? I have spent some hours in the Swedish War Archive searching for Swedish soldiers with Finnish awards , puh I Thank god they are typed (most) and not in scary handwritten old German like Rick has to deal with Right know I going through 1st class medals with Red Cross 1918 ( only 20 awarded to Swedes) would I like a document ? Hmm , let me think ...... YES ! Christer

He should be easy to id , but I dont have the book about Golden Merit Crosses , could not be more than one who served in Colonial and Finland !! Christer

Thanks Rick ! After all these years I still miss the German G and Z sometimes in handwriting So nice to have story to the name , maybe I should put some money in some books ..... Thanks again Rick , and have a nice weekend Christer

Hi all, I have a book given to Oberleutnant und Kommandant Wengel an T 159 from his crew no date but the book is from 1930 , the question is does anyone know who was Kommendant on T 139 in 1930s ? I can´t find T 139 in Kriegsmarine ? was it a old WW 1 ship ? I wonder if he was Oberleutnant sur Zee in 1930s he would probably be high ranked during WW 2 if he continued .... any info att all appriciated Christer

While looking through papers in the War archive in Stockholm Sweden , I found an interesting letter about this Danish officer who was seeking service in Finnsih Airforce April 4th 1918 during the Liberty War . He had been taking into hospital after attacking a servent and was considered to have weak nerves , but he was an excellent pilot and the Finnish Air Force , returned the letter and said he was welcome ! He had his flying License in Germany 1914 if I am right ? As a student I wonder what happened to him ? If I find anything I post here

Thanks ! Nice to close the question about this one I thought he should have a flying badge , and not anyone close to be named Wieshofer in JG 1 He must have been some sort of staff Off during WW II , I suppose . Christer

Maybe a little off topic but I thought I must show you this pic of one of the " soldiers " who fought and died in the war in Finland 1918 The Swedish boy Styrbjorn von Stedingk was just 16 years and 10 months when he was killed during the assault on Tammerfors in April 1918, a sad reminder of the price we pay for freedom. Here he is in his scout uniform. 340 Swedish soldiers joined the the attack on Tammerfors and 37 of them stayed on the battlefield.

Great Pic Andreas ! Thanks A new name to my list of FFrK III x 1918 Christer

Thats a fantastic piece Mikko ! One of the nicest I´ve seen Even if reserach going on I give a couple of more names just to check if I´m right Liberty Cross 1st Class without Swords with Breast Star 1918 2 awarded Lauri J Ingman Pehr E Svinhufvud Both Finnish Politicians. One thing I learned the last days is that my numbers for awarded Liberty Crosses is far to low I thought there where only 509 3rd class 1918 awarded but the real numbers must be more than 1000 ! Also 2nd Class 1918 I thought 152 awarded but the real numbers is closer to 300 , they are not so rare as I thought. The same goes probably for 4th class , I already seen that I have more names for 4th classes wo X and with Red Cross then I thought was awarded in total. It will be interesting to see the final numbers someday. Christer

Hopefully the research about Finnish awards will be published in some way, otherwise it will be lost with the researcher.

Liberty Cross 2nd Class w oakleaves 1941 - None awarded to Germans as far as I know Liberrty Cross 2nd Class w swords 1918 - How many to Germans ?? I have names of 22 to Germans names coming ...

Liberty Cross 1st Class without Swords 1918 awarded to Germans ? ? a handful at most Lothar August von Brück Diplomat Von Kühlman ? Arthur Zimmermann Diplomat and Fürst Hohenlohe Austrian Diplomat ?

Liberty Cross 1st Class 1918 35 awarded of those to Germans ? Werner Crantz Ernst von Hülsen Hauptmann Walter Isendahl Admiral Louis Leisler Kiep von Luck Oberst Leutn RIR 225 Anyone knows any others ? Christer

Great a new name for a 1st Class 1918 Libert Cross , thats not often and I never heard of Louis Leisler Kiep before An great ribbon bars there Christophe , it looks like the swords are gold on the last one probably meaning a third class 1918. I will soon be back with more names of Germans ! Christer

That is strange There was only 1 awarded Finnish 1st Class medal Order of Liberty with bow and that was to Mannerheim ..... Have I missed something

More Liberty Crosses from the top Liberty Cross 1st Class w Oakleaves (meaning 2nd award of same class) 18 awarded to Germans Karl Bodenschatz Gen der Flieger Franz Böhme Gen der Inf Rolf Carls Gen Admiral Erich Fellgeibel Gen der Nachrichten Truppe Alfred Jacob Gen der Pioneere Ferdinand Jodl Gen der Gebirgs Truppe Bodewin Keitel Gen der Inf Phillipp Kleffel Gen der Kavallerie Herbert Osterkamp Gen der Artillerie Conrad Patzig Admiral Friedrich Paulus Gen Feld Marschall Julius Schulz Gen der Flieger Ferdinand Schörner Gen Feld Marschall Hans-Georg von Seidel Gen der Flieger Frhr Thilo-Georg von Werthern GenMaj der Artillerie Karl Weisenberger Gen der Inf Bodo von Witzendorff Gen der Flieger Albert Wodrig Gen der Artillerie Liberty Cross 1st Class 1941 74 awarded to Germans Karl Allmendinger Gen der Inf Eduard Ausfeld Oberst Richard Bazing Gen Maj der Pioneer Wilhelm Becker Gen Leutn Luftwaffe Wilhelm Berlin Gen der Artillerie Dr Kurt Bingler Gen Stabs Arzt Reimar von Bonin Konter Admiral Hero Breusing Gen Maj Theodor Buchardi Admiral Erich Buschenhagen Gen der Inf Leopold Bürkner Vize Admiral Hans Bütow Konter Admiral Kurt Böhmer Konter Admiral Dr Leonardi Conti SS Obergruppführer Hans Degen Gen Leutn der Gebirgs Truppe Karl Demelhuber Gen der Waffen SS Kurt Dittmar Gen Maj Erwin Engelbrecht Gen Leutn Waldemar Erfurth Gen der Inf Nikolaus von Falkenhorst Gen Oberst Rudolf Gercke Gen Leutn Otto Gille SS Ober Gruppen Führer Ernst Goettke Gen Maj Heinrich Gärtner SS Oberführer Wilhelm Hasse Gen der Inf Peter Hansen SS GenMaj Georg Ritter von Hengl Gen Maj Adolf Heusinger Gen Maj Alexander Holle Oberst Luftwaffe Iwan Huenert Gen Leutn Rudolf Hünermann Gen Maj Ferdinand Jodl Gen Maj Heinrich " Heino" Jürs SS GenMaj Heinrich Kittel Gen Maj Mattias Kleinheisterkamp SS Gen Maj Kurt Kleinrath Gen Maj Luftwaffe Otto Klüber Konter Admiral August Krakau Gen Maj Hans Kratzert Gen Leutn Hans Kreysing Gen Maj Dr Rudolf Lipf Gen Arzt Walter Lorenz Gen Maj Luftwaffe Bernhard von Lossberg Gen Maj Luftwaffe Gerhard Matzky Gen Maj Gerhard Medem Gen Maj Heinz Nordmann Admiral Christian Phillipp Gen Maj Georg Radziej Gen Maj Wilhelm "Willi" Raitel Gen Maj Gerhard Reus Gen Maj Herbert Rieckhoff Gen Leutn Luftwaffe Franz Rossi Gen Maj Karl Rübel Gen Maj Horst Rössing Gen Maj Xaver Sattler Gen Maj Luftwaffe Ernst Schlemmer Gen Maj Hubert Schmundt Vize Admiral Rudolf Schmundt Gen Maj Karl Seber Oberst Felix Steiner SS GenLeutn Werner Stichling Admiral Fritz Thiele Gen Hermann Tittel Gen Leutn Werner Wachsmuth Oberst Eduard Wagner Gen Maj Otto von Waldau Gen Maj Luftwaffe Martin Wandel Gen Maj Walter Warlimont Gen Maj Kurt Weckmann Gen Leutn Wilhelm Wegener Gen Maj Otto Will Gen Maj Paul Winter Gen Maj Ernst Wirtsch Gen Maj Hans-Helmuth von Wühlisch Gen Maj Luftwaffe I will try to continou with 1st Class 1918 awards (wich is much tougher) All the best Christer

Here is the first Germans with Finnish Awards There is a few Higher grades awarded but they are extreme Liberty Cross 1st Class X and Brillianten 1918 2 awarded Rüdiger von der Golz GenMaj Hugo Meurer Vz Adm Liberty Cross 1st Class X Breast Star and Oakleves 1941 3 awarded to Germans Eduard Wolrath von Dietl GenOberst Franz Halder GenOberst Georg von Küchler Gen Feld Marsch Liberty Cross 1st Class X Breast Star 1941 11 awarded to Germans Ernst Busch Gen Feld Marsch Wilhelm Canaris Admiral Waldemar Erfurth Gen d Inf Kurt Fricke Admiral Rudolf Gercke Gen d Inf Hans Jeschonneck Gen Oberst Alfred Jodl Gen Oberst Günther Korten Gen Oberst Georg Heinrich Lindemann GenOberst Julius Felix Steiner Gen SS Kurt Zeitzler Gen Oberst More to come

Fantastic Bar ! I dont have any German Officer with BMVO and only a Medal 1st class , could it be Navy ? Christer

Mikko your ribbonbar is almost certain a 2nd Class and a 3rd Class , the ribbon för the 2nd Class is different and The devices are in silver för 4th Class and Gold för 3rd Class. Tanks Dave ! Now I have a couple of more names. Christer

Fantastic Pierce !! I got some new names there , I will make a list of all Germans with Finnish Awards I have in Excel format and post on the forum so can we see if we can update it. Christer

If anyone have names, documents or similar on Germans who got Finnish awards from 1918 I would be most grateful to see them. I´m trying to do a list over as many as possible awardees with liberty Crosses and medals from 1918. I still miss a lot so all help is appreciated Christer

Ohhps , just realized that I don´t have any known German with the combo 1918 3rd and 1941 2nd What was the name of that Saxon Officer Dave ? I love to get one more name to my never ending research Christer

It could be two 1941 Crosses like : Franz Augsberger , he got 3rd class 1941 and 2nd class 1941 Hans Collani also 3rd / 2nd + Eastern Front Medal I think I have all German who got 1941 Crosses , and these was the only I found with both 2nd and 3rd class. I have only 20 names for 1918 3rd class Cross to germans so there is a " black hole" there, probably a 3rd class 1918 then. Christer

Ha I found the old thread were this was discussed 2008 ! , (House Order of Hohenzollern thread) and one of the conclusions was that the blue ribbon was a Crown Order and not a Long Service award. Christer