Gordon, Thanks for the rely. It was the bottom phot on p337 I was refering to. I'm not doubting Barry's reputation, nor your's, your book is THE reference, I enjoyed reading it a lot. I'm only interested in proof positive, the "rounder" leaves doubt in my mind, I know it's controversial, believe me I'm not intersted in personalities at all.Thanks again.
There's a thread going on WAF about the origins of the rounder. It's purely research, you can read it here; http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...t=145594&page=5 Anyone have anything to add, particularly Gordon (ref 337 of your book?)
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