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Hi, He was born in 1901 and participated the Turkish Independence War when he was still at the Military High School. He went to Kabul in 1940 to the Afghan Military Academy as teacher for 4 years. He was the commander of the 241 th Infantry Regiment in Korea from 1951 until he died from shrapnel wound on June,5 1952 Turkey did not participated WWII. Regards Demir
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Help to identify the South Korean Medal shown in the photo
demir replied to demir's topic in South East & East Asia
Thanks for your help. Sorry but these pictures are from a book which we scanned and it has no info about the medals Regards Demir -
Help to identify the South Korean Medal shown in the photo
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He also has these medals: (Please correct the names if I am wrong) Afghanistan Nishan-i-Astour (the Order of the Star) Republic of Korea War Service Medal (ROKWSM) Republic of Korea Service Veteran Medal 2 Turkish UN Korean War Medal Demir -
Help to identify the South Korean Medal shown in the photo
demir replied to demir's topic in South East & East Asia
Hello, Thanks a lot for the info. Much appreciated. I look the net in order to find the unidentified medal but to no avail. If you can find it (I am searching) it would be wonderful. All the best Demir -
http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_05_2013/post-4190-0-91817500-1369230215.jpgHi, There are 5 medals in the photo awarded to martyr Turkish Colonel Nuri Pamir who was shot dead in Korea June 5, 1952. The first one is the Turkish Independence War Medal, second the Turkish War Medal. Then next 2 USA medals and I think last one is Korean. Will you please help me to recognize these medals. Thanks Demir
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Hi, There are 5 medals in the photo awarded to martyr Turkish Colonel Nuri Pamir who was shot dead in Korea June 5, 1952. The first one is the Turkish Independence War Medal, second the Turkish War Medal. Then next 2 USA medals and I think last one is Korean. Will you please help me to recognize these medals. Thanks Demir
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GERMAN AIRMEN 1. German airmen in Palestine 2. First lieutenant Keiper 3. First lieutenant Hellmuth Felmy 4. First lieutenant Hans Jürgen von Schlichting 5. First lieutenant Hans Jürgen von Schlichting at the funeral of von der Goltz Pasha. 22.6.1916 http://www.buddecke.de/schlichting.htm 6. First lieutenant Richard Falke
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I think he is GfM von Mackensen
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Turks : 1 row from left: 1. 2nd. Lt S. Fikri (Mutlu) from the village of Mut of the Mersin Province. 2. 2 soldiers 3. 2 soldiers at Ariburnu, Gallipoli 4. Ismet bey - Palestine Commander 3rd Corps (Later 2nd President of the Turkish Republic) 5. Sergeant Ibrahim Hakki 27th Regiment (Heroes who first stopped the invading forces with the 57th Reg.), Gallipoli 2nd row: 6. Prof. Dr. Suleyman Numan Pasha, The Head of the Battlefield Medical Service 7. A Turkish officer called Yusuf decorated with the TWM 8. Ahmed Cemal Pasha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djemal_Pasha) 9. Colonel and Ambassodor Behic Erkin (Turkey's ambassador to Budapest between 1928–1939, and to Paris and Vichy between August 1939-August 1943. As Turkish ambassador in France under the German Occupation after June 1940, Erkin used the power of his office and nation's neutrality to save Jews who could document a Turkish connection, however slight, from the Holocaust.-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behic_Erkin) 3rd row: 10. Ali Fuat Cebesoy Pasha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Fuat_Cebesoy) 11. An Assistant Sergeant Major (Bascavas Muavini) with 2 TWMs 12. He dedicated this photo to his elder brother Arif Date: 6 Teşrini evvel 34,1334 (October 1918) 13. 2nd Lieutenant Tahir Karauguz 4rd row: 14. Gendarmerie 2nd Lt. Selahattin Efendi (Col. Günay) was one of the heroes of Gallipoli land battles. 15. Lieutenant Hasan Dursun 16. Nuri (Killigil) Pasha (Half brother of Enver Pasha)(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuri_Killigil) 17. Prince Omer Faruk Efendi (http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96mer_Faruk_Osmano%C4%9Flu) 5th row: 18. Captain Pilot Cemil (Ucman) 19. Artillery Sergeant Major Ismail Doganer 20. (Briagadier) Halit Karsialan 21. (Major General) Ahmet Faik Pasha Commander 2nd Corps 6th row: 22. An officer with his family 23. An Officer 24. 1st. Lieutenant Kılıc Ali (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_K%C4%B1l%C4%B1%C3%A7)
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More KuK officers From right: 1. KuK officers (3rd from right) 2. General Pokorny Hermann (Hungarian) 3. Nykolaj Zsekov
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Now some Austro-Hungarians who has the TWM. (source: GMIC, Wehrmacht, Axis and Mr. Tosun Saral who received the Hungarian Merit Order Knight Cross recently) 1st row: 1. Hauptmann Gojkomir Glogovac nicknamed the machine gun Bosnia Unit Commander 2. General of Infantry Peter Baron von Hofmann was born on the 10th June 1865 in Vienna as the son of an army officer. (second from left) 3. Friedrich Georgi was born on the 27th of January 1852 in Prague. As the son of a retired Oberst. TWM 1917 2nd row: 4. General Viktor Weber Edler von Webenau, 1916-1917 military governor general and thus actual head of state of Montenegro. 5. Alfred Jansa von Tannenau, Generalstabsoffizier 1915-1916 on the Balkan front. TWM on his chest. 6. Officer 7. Hauptmann Willy Martin Rohr 3rd row: 8. Hungarian pilot in the KuK Army 9. Hungarian Erzherzog Josef Franz (Leopold Anton Ignatius Maria) born 28th of March 1895 at Brünn (Brno) 10. Oberleutnant Richard Hess (Hungarian) 4rd row: 11.Viktor Severus 12. Wenzel Freiherr von Wurm, awarded Eiserner Halbmond in 1918.
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I would like to share some photos of the Turkish Allies who have the TWM. PLEASE SHARE WHAT YOU HAVE ALSO: Top from left: 1. German Officer 2. German Officer - Asain Corps 3. Bulgarian NCO which was shared here in GMIC before by Theodor. 4. German Officer Bottom: 1. German Officer 2. Bulgarian Officers 3. Jordan Tal Scheich Jussuf Ul Ursan and Hauptmann Justin 4. German Officer in Maceonia 1917 Photos are shared by Mr. Iscen who collected them from the Net. Enjoy Demir
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Thank you gentlemen, for your lovely remarks. As you all emphasized Ataturk was a great soldier and statesman. The war in Canakkale showed the world how even the enemies respected each other and chivalry of the both sides, and at the end created 3 new Countries; Australia, New Zealand and Turkey. Demir
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It is the 98th anniversary of Canakkale invasion. 24-25.4.1915 We had the Dawn Service last night. In 1934 Ataturk wrote a moving tribute to those heroes-ANZACs who shed their bloods and to their mothers. This is an important message from the President of the young Turkish Republic to his old enemies but new friends. There is nothing to add. LEST WE FORGET Demir
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Hi, Sorry to bring it to your attention the Crimean war lasted from October 4, 1853 to March 30, 1856. According to the dates you gave Muzzarelli was 9 years old when the war started. Still he could have received it for his services in a later date when he was in the military if he ever served the Ottomans. What is "a member of the Legion of Honor of the Turkish Order of Medjidie" ? Is this a club for those who was awarded the Order or the fans of the Order? As far as I know there is no list in our hands. Regards Demir
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In my book The Turkish War Medal I showed a War Medal Document which had 4 lines. After publishing the book, Hector (GMIC Member) has send me a TWM Document which had 3 lines. (In the pictures below the difference between 3 and 4 lines are shown in red)(Blues are "you" which is not found in the 3 line documents, instead there is a blank space) After that, I found out more of these 3 line documents and finally bought one (I only gave half of the price asked) which belongs to a Bulgarian Brigadier (Ottoman Turkish: Mirliva) Janko Draganoff. (Purple colour is used to fill out spaces in the 3 line document) In the 3 line document the paragraph ends without the word (Bundan) at the end of the 3rd line. Here I share with you the original document and the Ottoman Turkish, Turkish and English versions. An original translation of the document made by the diplomats at the Ottoman Legation in Sofia while presenting the Medal is also shared below. Please also notice that; in the 3 line document there is another blank space in the 3rd line which has to be filled out, this blank space was replaced by “YOU” in the 4 line document instead of writing a name or a title or a courtesy title,like in this document. Also note that the document was given on behalf of the Sultan by Enver Pahsa as mentioned in my correction thread : http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/53717-the-turkish-war-medal-a-book-review/page-2#entry541606 What is this 3 line document, is it original? Yes it is original and IMHO there are 2 options: These 3 line documents were the earlier samples when the Medal was still given sparingly and people had no worries about filling in the 3rd blank space in the 3rd line. Or these were given to the allies without the 4th line, because the 4th line advise the citizens how to behave after receiving this award “So that / from now on you will continue to carry out your duties within law in the best way possible and spend special efforts to receive praises and to reach higher levels.” (But this is Enver Pasha who thought he had the authority to give advice to everybody) If these 3 line documents were given to the allies who were not citizens, then how come lots of allies have 4 line documents? Then we may say that 3 line documents are the earlier types and Enver Pasha decided to add some advice to the citizens in the later 4 line version ? Best wishes Demir
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Errata list for the book THE TURKISH WAR MEDAL: Please note the difference in the translation of the TWM Document. PAGES: 47,77,78,81,82 OLD: … you are granted the War Medal by our esteemed imperial majesty, his royal highness Sultan. NEW: ... you are granted the War Medal on behalf of holy sublime imperial majesty, His Royal Highness Sultan. Even though I explained in the book that Enver Pasha changed the Regulation of the War Medal and replaced the word "Berat" (Document signed by the Sultan) with "Vesika" (Document) in order to make it possible for him to sign it (the documents have his seal and signature on them), I missed the the old Turkish word "nam-ı" in the original document while translating (actually it means "on behalf of"). Thanks Demir
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Hi, After commenting 2 professional dealers as Paul and Avşar, it may not be appropriate but may I ask ? Are the photos given above for the Ottoman Mejidi, reverse and obverse, exactly same position? If they are, the centre piece is not in the correct position, the top layer for sure is not. But it is an original piece. Demir
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Normally one must not make any changes, as the medals of other countries. Every medal has a special ribbon. For example The Greek War Medal's ribbon has 4 red and 3 green lines. I am sharing the picture of the medal which is in my collection. Most of the medals are red with green lines at the edges like the Liyakat (Merit) medal. Regards Demir