demir

Please check the mahlas and date on this unknown one shown above!!!

Hi again, Please check the rough finish of the balls at the end of the arms. demir

Hi, Mahlas is also different demir

this is also an unknown one

Hi Terry, It is lovely but the problem is it has no Meybauer seal. demir

Hello Brian, Thank you. The TWM is one of the good looking and sought after medals in the recent years. I am glad that you want to get one for your collection. Best wishes demir

UNKNOWN THERE ARE LOTS OF THEM GERMAN OR AUSTRIAN. I PUT ONLY 3 OF THEM.

STEINHAUER & LOCK

MEYBAUER

JOR WAGNER & SOHN

JH WERNER

GODET

FR. SEDLATZEK

BRUDER SCHNEIDER

BB&CO

HELLO, AFTER RECEIVING A QUESTION FROM TIM TODAY I DECIDED TO PUT TOGETHER THE MAHLAS'S (PSEUDONYM) ON THE ORIGINAL AND THE PRIVATE MADE TWMs. I ALSO INCLUDED THE TUGRA OF THE SULTAN RESAD. AS YOU WILL SEE FROM THE PICTURES EVEN BB&CO HAS DIFFERENT POSITIONED MAHLAS'S. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MEYBAUER THE STYLE OF THE TUGRAS ARE DIFFERENT. SOME TUGRAS HAVE ARMS CURVED TOWARDS THE MAHLAS. SOME MAHLAS'S ARE EGG HAPE, SOME ROUND. O THERE IS NO END TO IT. IF YOU LIKE THE TWM YOURSELF, KEEP AND ENJOY IT. ALL THE BEST demir

HELLO TIM, NO NOT AT ALL. YOU CAN SEE MAHLAS WHICH WERE NOT PROPERLY INSTALLED IN SOME TWM. THIS HAPPENS WHEN THE PIN IS LOOSE IN THE FOREIGN MADE ONES (AWS,GODET,SEDLATZEK ETC) OR BECAUSE OF THE MANUFACTURER SUCH AS BB&CO. BB&CO HAS INSTALLED MAHLAS ALL SHAPES AND ROTATIONS. ALSO THE POSITION OF THE ARMS OF THE TUGRA MAY DIFFER WITHIN THE SAME COMPANY. FOR ME IT IS NOT IMPORTANT AS FAR AS THE MEDAL IS OK. ONCE AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO INDICATE THAT ONLY THE PAINTED ONES ARE THE OTTOMAN MADE ONES AND ALL THEIR SHAPES ARE SAME. BEST WISHES demir

Thank you Tosun bey, After this thread when I look at the picture, the faces resembles more Indian to me also. I thought that the help of the India Muslims were merely financial but this brought a new dimention. Thank you very much again. Demir :beer:

Hello, I think this is Godet and the screwback is made by Hansen. Here is a picture of the reverse of an Godet at home, it has 9 rivet holes with the same pattern. 9 th is behind the pins loop. Thanks demir

VERY NICE, LOVELY COLLECTION Demir :D

I think a modern repro.

Hi Terry, In this case tugra is OK. I was talking about my medals Tughs. All the best hope to se you this time when you come to Ankara. demir

Hi, What is a fake for the TWM ? For me apart from the Turkish Made painted ones, they are all fake. (Although I have a lot of them, they look nice, even the picture of the medal of mine in this thread is fake) So what you are asking is ; " is this a fake copy of the fake"? Apart from the lines on the arms and bad finishing, the star on the pin has 4 corners, normally it has 5. Check the first two medals in this page the stars has 5 corners and yours has only 4. ALSO in the picture of the TWM in eby which is given as the original of the TWM (suggested by an old chap in Auckland) has 5 corners. In this case, as he suggested, this may be a fake of the fake. So we can all it a new version. On the other hand The reason why I started this thread was the shape of the Tugra on my medal. The TUGHS (the lines in the middle) have to be straight not bend toward the pseudonym (the egg shape on the right). Please check my other thread on OTTOMAN SULTAN TUGRAS ( http://gmic.co.uk/in...showtopic=40277 ). All the best and a HAPPY NEW YEAR demir

Thats right, all the best demir

The old Ottoman script is: "Asakir-i Şahane" (Ottoman Army or Sultan's Army) There was a discussion in this forum about the Ottoman belt buckles some time ago. :beer: