@ wood i am shure , if you clean your badge with a teethbrush , you will have the same design at the rear as all the badges here were shown . i owned a badge in nearly the same condition , also with broken needle und much mud on the back. here is another one in standaard design for only 495$ http://www.craiggottlieb.com/data/inspect....erman+Militaria at my first posting i wrote " i think original " i should have written " it s the same style , which was told me original " a short time ago a member of a german forum bougt 4 tinnies , two or three were surely fakes , and also the well known ss badge . here is the link for it http://www.militaria-fundforum.de/showthre...ht=schmalkalden in this thread i ask the same questions like here : who has any information of the maker " Carl Peter Schmalkalden " ? is his name listet everywere ? why has the tinnie either a date not a year ? in which years were "sportschiesswettbewerbe " in schmalkalden done ? has anyone found a badge under save conditions like an estate of an old ss man digging out of the earth found in an old house , or somewhere where you must not pay for it ? when it is a fake , who is the maker of the fake ? here is a fake maker http://www.germanmedals.biz/catalog/ but he hasnt this badge not in his program. a lot of questions , i hope someone can give some or only one answer, and my broken english is so good that anyone understand. Falk