Rosenberg

The back is looking like Gesetzlich gesch?tzt/935/228.....aound the pin I believe to see N?rnberg and some letters that make me believe it?s C.Lauer N?rnberg-MM.However,what is this? Cheers

Thanks guys!I really appreciate your help.You make up one of the top spots on civil awards on the net-to me it is THE top spot,but who knows there might be others Cheers

Thanks Don!If it is really such an ordinary thing,then I am sorry for having activated you Kindest Regards

Hi, can anybody help me with this case.I don?t know what award it might be for.The 25symbol is at least similar if not identical to the one used by RAD,but those are somewhat earth-coloured.The cases for 25yrs state-service are slightly bigger and have a different symbol.Is this one a fake? Regards

Fantastic!Thanks for showing!

another try...

I cant make it out....but took more pics maybe they help....I actually thought the difference would be the rivets distinguishing the patterns? Regards

Thanks to both of you for your input!I think mine is like JT?s first eagle?...take a look

Thanks Richard,I think yours shows mine in unbend condition

Thanks,I like it too.If only it could be a lil bit more silver

MM

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more details from the back....

Hi, what do you think of this one?

Dear Gentlemen, I am not even close to a position to take actively part in your discussion.However I do have thoughts about some points raised in discussion.... -Why is a dealer saying the ?rounder?is a fake when he could use your discussions to make money?-in this dealer?s opinion,which he usually sells,hence must be a risk of getting caught selling fakes when participating in this hype,or does he simply know better? -IMO there is no real way to be 100% sure about any TR item,it?s just some items have this magic and others don?t.Those that do have magic happen to be the ones that seem to be traceable via pix,docs etc -Why do the participants of this discussion present in-the-process research to an open audience,making themselves vulnerable on points they haven?t found conclusions,instead of presenting a rock-solid result with the usual following discussion? As usual I want to add that I do by no means want to stir things,these are just thoughts of a by-passer open to be ignored by anybody Cheers

Thanks again for the comments! Regards

Thank you very much! Regards

Thanks for that quick reply.Those numbers on the mini,is this award or manufacturer based?

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backside and note the numbering on the metal part,what is it?

closer

now the new family member...

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Hi, I have at least three of these somewhere in my cellar,but never made to get to know the real name of this award.I am just not that much in Imperial awards.My newest addition to my unknown-order-family is the long time lost baby sister.Can anyone give me any info on it? First the general family appearance....

Thanks Eric, I took yours as prototype,but -now luckily-didn?t pay attention enough to detail as I remember yours to be without the swaz connect and with the "?" shaped catch-I wouldn?t have bought this one.... Cheers