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Oops Never mind.... those last two pics are of General Erik and not Nyholm..... Damn

Here is the full sized pic

Ok.. now the best one...... Mike, looks like you were right about the last medal... Arggg.... BUT..... some of the others don't look right now either.....

Another, post 1903

Hello all, Have some additional pics to update (thanks the Steen Ammentorp)!! Here is a young Nyholm.... circa 1887

2nd to the last is the Italian Order of Savoy (Officer) which uses the same ribbon as the Brit St. Michael and the last is the Egypt Order of the Nile (Officer). I'm still working on the first one... but I have a feeling that it too will be an order from that area.... can you tell me what the true colors are (they look faded) ? I really don't think that they are Brit... since the precedence is also incorrect... the St. Michael would come before the RVO... Cheers Mark

How would you know if an item was an 'issue' piece or a private purchase item, especially if the item was not numbered? I would assume that if you were awarded an order (Danish, Dutch etc) and went to a jeweler to purchase a duplicate (and he is the same jeweler that the official pieces come from) that you would keep those ???? This is damn confusing !

Hey Jeff, That's great info.. thanks ! But this raises another question. If the awardee purchased the award from the private jeweler.. must it still be returned or is it only the ones that came from the government 'mint' to be returned ? I'm assuming that the same rules would apply to other countries as well and not just the Netherlands. Cheers Mark

Hey guys, A couple general questions concerning the Oranje-Nassau.... 1) Was this order required to be 'returned' upon the death of the recipient? 2) Are there any numbers published in regards to how many Civil and Military versions were awarded by date and by the class of the award ? Cheers Mark

Reverse with a nice maker's mark. M.J. Goudsmit - La Haye. I wonder if it is the same maker that made the commander's badge. They came form the same seller and appear to be the same period....???

Hey Mike, What a cool group... love it and the history !!!!! I found the 'star' for the commander's badge.... on it's way to me today.....

Hey Jeff, Nice item.. I didn't realise that you were the one that picked that one up off eBay !! Cheers ! Mark

I think this is a maker's stamp.. any thoughts ? By the looks.. I kind of think this is an early piece but a that is just a guess.

Here is the reverse.. I really like the detail under the blue enamel. A few chips here and there in the white which im assuming happens when it is worn and bounces off the tunic buttons.

Hello Boys, Here is a new 'toy' that arrived today.... for my Nyholm display.... Silver gilt but I think the suspension ring, loop, ball tips and lion are in gold... Is this possible ?? This is the first Commander's award with swords that I have seen. Were these required to be returned to the government after the recipients death ?

Hey Mike, Thanks for that !! The medal bar was... to say the least.. a pain in the A$$ to put together... makes me think very highly of the folks that do this for a living... and 'yes'.. the glue was not an accident that I used it... The last medal still bugs me..... and I'll always be on the lookout for a pic of Nyholm or a medal/order that looks like this with this style ribbon.... Arggggg Oh.. and for the Japanese flag.... if I can find a period flag for Nyolm.. I'll be glad to replace it! Cheers ! Mark

Tunic

On the tunic

Reverse.... And yes... I 'glued' the pin to the back instead of fighting with the needle and thread......

Ok boys, It's been a while since my last update.. been busy with work (travel) and stuff..... I have completed the medal bar to the best I can at this point (still need a St. Anne)... and I'm going with my 'gut' feeling that the last order is the RAO 4th class (based upon the picture). Once I can make the final determination (an original picture etc) I can always change it if need be. I also have a dress belt coming... so now all I'll need is the proper bi-corne hat. Here is the bar

Full pic

Hey Daniel, Long time no talk!! I hope all is well..... The reason for this thread is based upon an old one that I posted a while ago about a Danish General http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=17652 His records show that in Jan 1908 he was awarded the Anhalt, Albrecht der B?r (Knight 1. class) and his rank would have been either a Captain or a Major. His records show that he was Captain in January 1897 and then Lt. Colonel in November 1909 (no mention of major). In the pictures that are in the thread there is a medal bar with 5 orders shown and all of them can be ID'd and are listed in his records except for the Anhalt. The very last one appears to be a RAO 4th class and I am under the thought that his records are acctually incorrect and that he did not get the Anhalt in 1908 but rather the RAO. And in 1908 he was either a Captain or Major Sooooooooo????? Cheers Mark

Hello all, Just a quick general question...... In regards to the RAO, when being awarded to foreign officer's (specifically non German).... Which ranks (generally) received the 3rd vs the 4th class of the order? Cheers Mark

Hey Charles, Thanks... though things have slowed down.. trying to determine the final order (I'm betting on RAO 4th)... but until we can find another picture of him......... Cheers Mark

Reverse... marked A.M. Will look nice when cleaned up (belt sander here I come ).... Cheers Mark