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In any case, her dress, which is all it is, isn't the proper color for the Elephant sash. I am constantly amazed at the conslusions some people seem to want to jump to in the absence of any evidence at all.

Nuth al-Tahrir al-Kuwait / Medal for the Liberation of Kuwait

Awarded for services in the liberation of Kuwait campaign in Gulf War II, between 2 Rajab 1411 A.H. (= 15 October 1990 C.E.) and 14 Sha?ban 1411 A.H. (= 26 November 1990 C.E.). Some allied countries established different elegibility periods for their national forces to accept this award.

Established: By King Fahd ibn Abdulaziz by Decree No. 5127 of 24 Ramadan 1411 A.H. (= 4 January 1991 C.E.). Awards were freely extended to troops of friendly states by Decree No. A/226 of 23 Sha?awwal 1411 A.H. (= 2 February 1991 C.E.). Manufactured by Spink and Son (London, England), by Huguenin (Le Loche, Switzerland), and by many manufacturers in the USA (although usually in low quality). Due to the multiple manufacturers, there is some minor variability in design. The medal shown is a Huguenin striking.

1984 Exercise Island Crown Medal

Nuth Al-Khidmat Al-?Askariat / Military Service Medal

Nuth Al-Ma?alam / Teacher Medal

Nuth Al-Sharif / Honor Medal

Nuth Al-Ma?rkat / Combat Medal

Awarded to members of the armed forces who have participated in combat.

This medal was also widely awarded to allied forces in Gulf War II, including United States of America.

This medal is widely and stubbornly mis-identified on eBay and elsewhere.

King Abdulaziz Order of Merit

A general order of merit for service to Saudi Arabia. The order is awarded in commemoration of the founder of the kingdom for meritorious service while in government office, for extraordinary deeds of bravery, and for other deeds of service to the state.

For Saudi Arabian nationals, all appointments must initially be to the fourth class and, thereafter, appointments to the higher classes are made by promotion within the order only after a minimum of five years of service in the lower class. For members of the house of al-Saud and non-Saudi Arabian nationals, appointments to higher classes may take place independent of the requirements for promotion within the order.

Established ca. 1955 by King Saud ibn Abdulaziz. Revised and renewed by King Faisal ibn Abdulaziz in Decisions No. 122 and No. 123 of the Council of Ministers, 24 Muharram 1391 A.H. (20 March 1971 C.E.). Manufactured by Tefiq Bichay (Cairo, Egypt) and by Arthus Bertrand (Paris, France).

King Abdul Aziz Chain ? Awarded to non-Muslim foreign heads of state ? A 14-carat 108-cm gold chain with alternating depictions of the Saudi insignia and green- and red-enameled designs. ? Suspended from this is a 140-mm (90-mm?) gold badge of the order.

King Abdul Aziz Sash / distinguished class ? A 100-mm sash (worn over the right shoulder), an 80 mm silver-gilt sash badge, and a 60 mm breast star (worn on the left breast)

first class ? A 60 mm silver-gilt neck badge (ribbon 40 mm) and a 60-mm silver breast star (worn on ??? breast)

second class ? A 60-mm silver-gilt neck badge (ribbon 40 mm)

third class ? A 40-mm silver-gilt breast badge with yellow-enameled design in the center medallion. The 37-mm ribbon bears a rosette. (SHOWN BELOW)

fourth class ? A 40-mm unenameled silver breast badge worn from a 37 mm ribbon.

You may also want to glance at:

http://www.omsa.org/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=539

http://www.medals.org.uk/saudi-arabia/saudi-arabia.htm

I think these are general merit medals, but let me look. I have some fragmentary notes somewhere . . . .

A possible pair, but with erased GSM you'll never know. A shame.

Sure, will put some up.

In the interim, see:

http://faculty.winthrop.edu/haynese/medals/saudi.html

(Due to MAJOR internet hacking and wanton data-destruction shortly after 11 September, this site has NOT been undated. Likewise, there has also been some flagrant data theft.)

Not sure I have any medals from The Kingdom there, but you may wish to glance at:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2785

I think most that do wear these are (justifiably) proud of the service in the Soviet Armed Forces.

Yes, somewhere I have photos. They are absconding.

Not my favorite site, but see:

http://www.soviet-awards.com/medals14.htm#order47

If (like me) you need English.

But for more reliable information, there is always Mondovor too!

http://www.mondvor.narod.ru/MBezuprSl.html

(If you live long enough for it to load . . . . Really slow of late!)

Having the Red Bible here, by my desk (where else would it be?!):

20-year - USSR MVD, 1958-60 and 1968-91

15- and 10-year - USSR Ministry of Defence, 1958-91

Hi Doc,

Before I run I'm finishing up these last few replies and caught this one. Which ones did you get? I got the "Order of Stalin" one with doc about a month or so ago but haven't had time to post it yet. It's the one similar to the Order of Lenin... just made a heck of a lot cheaper. It even pales in comparison to copies of the OL and that say's alot!

I've put in a suggestion for discussion about the possibility of having a separate section for Russian Federation and umalatova awards but haven't heard anything back on it yet. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Really love the enamels on them... not like old world quality but better than just plain medals.

Dan

There is already a thread. Duplicate threads get lost.

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=8152

Eric & Dan, Add me to the list of those loving the Umalatovas. I just bought my first two. The medals are nicer than a lot of Soviet jubillee medals

Doc

Personally, I like them MUCH better that that post-Soviet faux-Tsarist neo-Russian "stuff". At least the "Umalatova" have some history and some meaning behind them.

A T 2.1 is up with our friend in New Jersey.

$12.5K. Oy!!

http://www.collectrussia.com/DISPITEM.HTM?ITEM=13607

Is it just me, or to others have a -- I dunno -- visceral? -- artistic? -- problem with these sparkly-bright Soviet medals. If it looks like it was made just last week, maybe it was??

Am I overly suspisious? When it comes to Soviet ODM can one be so??

Personally, I'm not much interested in the post-Soviet neo-Russian awards. Just a bit too much unreconstructed Tsarist symbolism for my taste.

Have only one, the Medal for 15th Anniversary of the Soviet Withdrawal from Afghanistan. Est. 2004.

I have put up the VDNKh medals I have -- in a group -- as part of the Shapovalona group. See: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2735

Yes, nice awards, and frequently and systematically under-rated. We have, I think, free-standing threads on all (most?) of these labor awards.

See, for example:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7099

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=1830

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7777

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7767

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7773

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=7771

And so on . . . there is a lot of information on this forum!

It has been asserted (but never proved) that the brother of Subadar Mir Dast, 55th Rifles, was awarded the EK2 during WWI for efforts after his defection to the German side at enticing Indian Army troops to join him. (I have his name somewhere . . . .) This is interesting in that Mir Dast was both a recipient of the VC and of the IOM. Quite a nice family group that's be!

Is it possible to get the citations for all those M.I.D.s? Why no citation for the M.C.? Or records regarding how/why he ended up with such a peculiar WW2 assignment?

WWI MiD citations can SOMETIMES be found in the relevant war diaries.

No MC recommendations usually available for WWI, though you sometimes find them in war diaries too. For WWII, they are easy, of course.

If someone checked his service record in the NA (a.ka.. PRO), it might fill in some gaps. It may not be open yet, with the WWII service? Never have looked for records on natives (of the British Isles).

Actually, the EK2 1870 was awarded to Henry Hozier who may (or may not) have been the father of a certain Clementine Hozier (who later married some guy named Winston Churchill).