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Not sure we discussed him before: The second Gerlich (besides Gerhard from RIR 22), who got the HHOX around June/July 1917, is either the flyer Martin Gerlich (1892-1920, http://www.fliegergraeber.de/Martin_Gerlich.htm), originally from GR 1, or Hans Gerlich from FAR 71, in ERL as Hauptmann aD, probably living in Königsberg in 1942.
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Then there is the case Geyer, got the HHOX as Hptm in mid 1917. Not too many who would fit, we already have Hugo and Hermann in our list, then there are two Bavarians - and two other ones: - Saxon Hauptmann Karl Geyer (seniority 23.9.1911), in TelBat 7, in the ERL as OTL aD. I would think he was already Major by 1917, but that would have to be checked. - Karl Erich Geyer, in 1914 Olt in GR 10, later Flügeladjutant of the Duke of Sachsen-Meiningen, as such received the SEHO in 1916. After that, in RIR 212. Acc. to ERL KIA in March 1918 (they list him as Olt, but he must have been promoted). I would tend to think it is him.
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The Hptm dR Glasow from RJB 2, who got the HHOX around May 1918, is either Johannes (from Gnesen, acc. to VL born in Deven (should probably be Devin, now part of Stralsund)/Grimmen) or Richard (from Neustettin), both in 1914 Lt dR in JB 2. Johannes is in VL, wounded 1915 as Olt dR in RJB 2. I guess their promotion dates will be quite similar, so probably no way to tell which one.
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The Lt v. Gladiß, who received the HHOX around May 1917, is either Rudolf or Sigismund. Rudolf was in 3. GzF, died from wounds in March 1918. Sigismund, from GGR2, born 1896, was already pronounced dead in VL in Dec 1914, but then resurfaced as heavily wounded and in British captivity in the VL Feb 1915. He is in the ERL as Lt aD. I am not sure if we can tell whether he got back from being a POW before May 1917. If not, then the HHOX recipient must be Rudolf.
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The Hptm dR Schobess/Schobeß from FAR 503 is in the 1914 list in FAR 27 as Olt dR, LD2, Münster. I find a Regierungsrat Fritz Schobeß in the address book Münster 1914/15. He might be identical with Finanzgerichtspräsident aD Ernst Fritz Andreas Schobeß who died in Wiesbaden in 1953, born 1874 in Dietzdorf/Schlesien (acc. to ancestry).
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Ah ok - we're getting there. Walter Otto should be the HdR who got the HHOX in RIR 12. Born 1873. It looks like Ernst was KIA in late 1914 already. Our Hptm dL from LIR 31 is probably the Max Otto in VL who turned from dR to dL at some point, IF the regimental history is correct. That would leave two possible Olt dR in the 1914 ranklist (the one in IR 146 should be Walther, wounded in 1915 as HdR in IR 146, so not him): - one in 4. GzF, from Berlin, LD2 - one in GR 2, from Stettin, LD2
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Ok so: the HdL Otto was from LIR 31. Fortunately, they have a regimental history - and there is a HdR Otto as leader of 10. Kompanie at the beginning of the war. IF that is him (so if he turned Landwehr before April 1917, when he received the HHOX), there would only be two Hptm dR Otto in the 1914 list as candidates, one in GrenReg 12 (Walter?), the other in FüsReg 36 - which might be him. To make it more confusing, in the Verlustlisten 21.9.1916 there is a Hptm dL Max Otto from LIR 31, from Kolbatz/Greifenhagen in Pommern. The same one is also listed in Dez 1914 as "Hptm, vermutlich dL". Both times wounded. So this might be a second Max Otto - besides the IR 75 one - who received the HHOX.
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Lt dR Schnuis: an extremely rare (Friesian) name. In the Verlustlisten, there are only two with that name - and one is listed as "Lt dR Friedrich Schnuis", born "21.12. in Potshausen". At ancestry etc., I don't find anyone with that name - however, there was a "Frerich Schnuis", born 1.12.1889 in Potshausen, died 7.10.1962 in Krautsand. A short bio of him is found in a book "Leben und Lernen hinter Stacheldraht" (2001): he studied theology and became Pastor (later Studiendirektor des Predigerseminars Göhrde, and Superintendent) - and he was a Hauptmann dR. I think this is him.
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For the Hptm dR Schneider from Eisenbahn, there is, if I am not mistaken, only one possibility: the 1914 Olt dR from EisenbReg 2, in Berlin, with LD2 and a KO4X. I wonder if he is the Hans Schneider who is listed in the DOA as Ingenieur and Lt dR in Magdeburg, with KO4X and DSWA, born 13.2.1879 in Magdeburg. At ancestry, I find the death certificate for a Friedrich Wilhelm Hans Schneider, Kaufmann, born 13.2.1879 in Magdeburg, died in Berlin 15.6.1947.
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While we are at it, let's focus a bit more on the Schmidts. I've been looking at some candidates from Verlustlisten (but these are rather candidates, might need additional confirmation): Hptm dR Schmidt from IR 401 might be Hans, born in Wolmirstedt on 10.2.1877. The Hptm dL, cdr of PB 344, and the Hptm dRaD, cdr of PB 305, can they be found?
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Ah, thanks! That makes it even more likely that he got only the medal, since he most probably made Lt AFTER receiving the "Hohenzollern". The second celebrity case, even more famous, is Otto Hahn (1879-1968). The later Nobel prize winner is credited (among other awards) with the Royal HHOX on German Wikipedia, as well as in other places: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Hahn I had a look into his biographies, both "Otto Hahn: ein Forscherleben unserer Zeit" (1984) as well as "Otto Hahn: Leben und Werk in Texten und Bildern" (1988). So Hahn, already being a Dr., was a One-Year-Volunteer in IR 81 in 1901/02, decided to pass on the Lt and just made Vizefw dR, then was promoted to Lt at the beginning of WW1, apparently in a Landwehr Reg, then at Großes Hauptquartier and in PioReg 36. The biographies also confirm all the other awards listed on wiki: both EKs, the Hessen Tapferkeitsmedaille (seen on his ribbon bar in the drawing below) and the Saxon Albrechtsorden with swords. There is also a picture that shows Hahn wearing his EK1 when being introduced into the Prussian Academy in 1925 (see below). However, there is no mentioning at all of a Hohenzollern, neither Royal nor Princely. And as a Lt, he could not have just got the medal. So either someone on Wikipedia made this up (I could not find the original source for it) - or, but that is just my speculation, he might have received a Hohenzollern-Hausorden from the Kaiser personally, during Weimar time. He would have been the perfect person for this, being Director of the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Institut for Chemistry and Senator of the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Gesellschaft. But I don't have any evidence for that.