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Aaargghhhh!!! Red Eagle 3rd with bow and crown to a pre-1914 Oberst!! Must have been 80++ in WW2!

I didn't know that, but it makes sense. Certainly my guy was Prussian. Superb bar, anyway!

But I can't find Paetzold as a HHOX winner.

Daniel, have you got a pic of that other Brabant ribbon bar? Andreas, has your Knight's 1st with crown bar been ID'd? Has to be one of the other three mentioned by Nimmergut!

The crowns:

Thanks all for your comments! Yes, you may all use my pictures. Here's a larger scan:

The ribbons are definitely silk, smooth as can be.

Nimmergut, alas, lists only the information I have given. No info about birth etc. The four recipients of the Brabant Knight's 1st with crown are: 1) Geh. Med.rat Dr. Michael Reisinger, from a hospital in Mainz 2) Prof. Biermann, im Kabinett f?r Kunstpflege (seems to be an art historian) 3) Hans Eberhardt 4) Lawyer and "Justizrat" Wilhelm Gr?newald, chairman of the University Society Gie?en, on 26.6.1918 I also found this factory owner in the OA 1908/09. But he is listed as a Hauptmann der Reserve in Berlin. with PrLD1 indeed! I think it must be him, though I don't know how he got to be a judge. Dumb question: how do I determine whether it is silk? The whole bar certainly looks good, very clean and minty. Closeups to follow!

Closeup of the crowns:

The back:

Gentlemen, here's something I think I was lucky to get: Ribbon #4: Princely House Order of Hohenzollern, 3rd class w/o swords, with crown. According to Nimmergut, it was awarded to Beamten and officers up to Hauptmann. 71 awards from 1905-1927 (continued to be awarded in Weimar times). Ribbon #5: If I am not mistaken, this is the Star of Brabant. The combination with the RAO suggests a Knight 1st class with crown. Now there weren't many of them around... actually four, and seven for the Knight 2nd with crown. Nimmergut lists all recipients (well, only six for the 2nd cl). But only one of them was an officer, a certain Major der Landwehr Hans Eberhardt, Handelsrichter (commercial judge), on 5.6.1918 Should this be his bar? Regards Chris

Yup, it seems to be a sew-on variant. It appears vaulted, but solid, 'massive'. Difficult to explain, I will post pics when I get back. Rare? Wait till you see my new one....!

Ah ok, that was for being wounded, being from Lippe, but no EK, right? So we know he got his EK after his MMM! The construction is also strange: never had a pin, apparently, but not the usual sew-on style either, rather a little 'vaulted'. Anyway: still

Hi Christian, I don't think so. The non-com Hindenburg - I don't think he forgot his swords - suggests to me an EK2 for war merit at home. The combination with comb Lippe and Schaumburg doesn't worry me - such combinations exist.

The back:

Gentlemen, it took me a while to get over here. Hello to all old and new! Here's something I got recently: a bar with Lippe-Detmold and Schaumburg-Lippe. I think #4 might be the rare Lippe Military Merit Medal without swords. Or did they not always attach swords to the ribbon bar? Regards Chris